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Uh-oh, PGI 180

Baca Loco

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Have finally received the latest PGI . . . and have a couple of comments.

As some of you have likely noticed I do, on occasion, have fairly strong opinions--and am also a master of understatement. Sadly for Ant Jones, PGI's insufferab--I mean, long-suffering editor, the same holds true in private communications as well. Usually the brunt of my ire I'd like to offer my thanks to Ant for not royally screwing up all my hard work this month. Oh, he's taken the editorial ax to my stuff but he's done a solid job of pruning this time instead of the usual butcher's mayhem. The View and the Bus article retain their intended spirit, if not all their original content and I'm humbly grateful. Mr. Jones' typical operating principle is y'all prefer a few extra square centimeters of photograph instead. Probably true.
Or else--you're thinking--- he could deem some of the content unnecessary. I thought of that too and discounted it immediately. :D
Ah well, seemed only fair to give him a public due as he suffers frequent private assaults. :)

Now on to the nasty bit. And perhaps it's just me but it seems PGI has been expanding the envelope of late--last 3 to 6 months?--in terms of language allowed in the mag and the, shall we say, less than subtle sexual nature of some of the humorous bits. While I realize it's fairly routine for many of us, I for one would consider limiting my kid's access to the mag if he was, say, 12 or thereabouts. It's very possible I'm just out of step or the onset of Alzheimer's, what?, is making me forgetful and it's really nothing new or, if it is, it really isn't a problem.
So, where should the line be drawn or should there even be a line?


As my sig says it's my opinion alone that perhaps PGI has gone too far and I'm simply curious what the rest of you think.
 

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I admit, I saw the swearwords in it and was a little suprised.

People in the USA are definitely more offended by that sort of thing than in the UK or Europe though.

I for one think there should be more nipples in the mag... ladies nipples that is, before people start pointing out all naked pictures of Ledz that have made it in. :eek:
 

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I'm with you on this one Baca me ole mucker.

Sensorship IS bad, but at the same time, potty language has it's place - like if you're *really* pi$$ed off about something/someone. But even then, shouldn't writers (full time, OR part time) have the skills in place to circumnavigate the apparent necessity to incorporate the odd expletive, and still make it mildly humourous (sp?)?? (please note - I do not posess these skills, and therefore cannot provide a suitable example of an acceptable alternative...)

I'm not saying that it doesn't make me snigger like an adolescent when I encounter the odd "f**k" in the middle of an otherwise "safe" body of text, but I'd be more impressed if some other way to tickle me was utilised.

And more importantly - we have ONE major gateway in the UK into our beloved sport. Namely, PGI (I don't know of any other magazines which you can find at your local W H Smiths). Kids like the look of paintball. Kids are the future of our sport. All it takes is one parent of the next Ollie Lang to decide they don't want their child to be involved in a scene which promotes bad language, and you've got one less potential legend on the scene.

We've got enough on our plate without having to worry about shiznick like that!!!

But saying that, I personally won't stop reading the magazine because of it. Not for another 6 years or so...

Blah.

Dunc.
 

Skeet

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Originally posted by manike
I admit, I saw the swearwords in it and was a little suprised.

People in the USA are definitely more offended by that sort of thing than in the UK or Europe though.

I for one think there should be more nipples in the mag... ladies nipples that is, before people start pointing out all naked pictures of Ledz that have made it in. :eek:
Nipples do make a point of pictures tho..make a plain pic of a chic, into something exciting..Nipples Rule...
 

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I think there is a limit to what kind of language is used.

Ie:Sexual jokes can be funny but over-doing it can be offensive to some people.

PGI is lame in terms of swearing compared to a lot of other mags.
 

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I think that having coverage of both the PSP and the Nipples is part of being a good paintball magazine. Although I prefer the Nipples to the PSP, as a player, there is a great deal of the paintball world that is invested in the PSP personally and finacially. This said, if PGI were to stop covering Nipples, I would be dissappointed, but I would try to enjoy the content in any case. If there was only PSP based content, but no Nipples, I would be less personally affected, but I would still read PGI.

OK, 'nuff of that.:)

The use of profanity reduces the value of the unparalelled writing in PGI. It may be that using profanity actually makes the mag more appealing to younger readers, who are all for rebelling, even if the rebellion is in petty and purile matters. I know there are skate mags that were around when I was a boy that my mom wouldn't have wanted me to read (far better for me to be reading her Plath and Steinem lit), but that the nastiness was part of the draw.

I appreciate the writing in PGI because of its intelligent if not always serious examination of paintball. I like the fact that a fifth grade class couldn't have contributed the kind of content I find inside. I understand the desire to be edgy, but dirty talk isn't the way.
 
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oh my god!!!!!!:eek: who cares!!!

dirty words.......yeah, maybe if your like seven!!!! why on earth would it be shocking???

I understand that parents may not want their kids to e in contact with such bad and evil things but lets face it........ kids already know just about everything anyway......

....the pillars of society will not crumble cos somebody says "naughty words" (insert schoolgirl giggling here:rolleyes: )

who cares

:mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: