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Micah

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I'm sure this will make me sound stupid ... but I'll say it anyway ... What's wrong with having trigger bounce if you can still one ball? I mean if your microswitch happens to like to bounce a little bit, how is that your fault? you still have to pull the trigger, it just kind of assists you a little bit. How is it any different than a reactive trigger?

-Micah
 

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Micah - if a marshal in the Millenium series checks your marker, and, in the words of someone who knows about this sort of thing, it "trips in the refs hands" (ie shoots more than one*) then you are "in trouble".

And with certain bounces you don't have to keep pulling the trigger - for example on my RaceGrip I can set the trigger up in such a way that it bounces all day - or until you run out of gas - without me moving my finger. Which isn't full-auto (the grip software says it isn't) , but it is at the same time (my finger, and everybody watching says it is).

To strictly comply with the rules, you must pull, and release the trigger - with trigger bounce/reactive triggers you can keep your finger pulling back with the same pressure, and the marker fires. which is not one pull AND release.

It's certainly impossible to tell the "but I have to wobble my finger back and forth to get my bounce" from the "my finger stays still while my trigger does it's thing" from the "whoops - my mode seems to be full-auto".

There-fore, it has to go.
 

Micah

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what if you can get the trigger bounce just right on a non-electro? it's not full auto but it's not on pull and release per shot ... Lots of gray area I see that ... but where is the line drawn? How can I push the limit and still be safe? etc etc etc

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Micah,

Trigger bounce or reactive triggers is just as "illegal" on a non-electro. So if an RT is set up that way and it's get's pulled then it's treated just like an electro.

There is no gray area - if the gun is set up so you can get more than one shot for one pull it is not allowed.

In the UK we also have issues of legality and not just the Millennium rules so it's just not worth it.

Learn to shoot fast, it's not that hard, just takes practice.
 

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Originally posted by Micah
what if you can get the trigger bounce just right on a non-electro? it's not full auto but it's not on pull and release per shot ... Lots of gray area I see that ...
It is not a gray area. It's black and white. If your gun fires any more than one shot for an intentional pull and release of the trigger then it is FA. PERIOD. That's under the real world legal definition and the millennium rules. Anything over 1 shot per pull even 1.1 is in effect a 'burst mode' and all burst modes are classed as FA.

Originally posted by Micah
but where is the line drawn? How can I push the limit and still be safe? etc etc etc

The line has been firmly drawn at one shot per intentional pull and release. It's a very firmly made line in concrete as can be seen by the enforcement of it and teams falling foul and being penalised.

You can NOT push this limit and remain safe. There is no grey area or way of pushing it. If you want to be safe make sure that your marker only shoots once for every intentional pull and release that you make of the trigger.

The only legal way to increase your fire power safely is to learn how to 'walk' the trigger like Dynasty do with great results.

manike
 

manike

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Imagine you were using your fingers to 'walk' across a table.

Now keep your hand still and let your fingers slide on the table surface.

Now apply that to the trigger... or your girlfriend ;)

manike