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TJ was right. FA here we come...

manike

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Sounds like even open X-ball may be allowing these FA after 3 shots guns with a limit of 15bps...

Unless you are using semi :rolleyes: in which case there is no limit...

But if you are using semi with no limit to ROF... whats to stop you using the old cheats still?

Anyway I expect most people will use the competitive advantage of FA after 3 shots...

Strange how and when such a decision could be make in conjunction with other factors.

Who me? Cynical? nah!
 

stongle

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Originally posted by manike
Sounds like even open X-ball may be allowing these FA after 3 shots guns with a limit of 15bps...

Unless you are using semi :rolleyes: in which case there is no limit...

But if you are using semi with no limit to ROF... whats to stop you using the old cheats still?

Anyway I expect most people will use the competitive advantage of FA after 3 shots...

Strange how and when such a decision could be make in conjunction with other factors.

Who me? Cynical? nah!
Sustained 15 bps is pretty fcuking fast. I'm not sure what the uber So*Cal kidz are shoosting these days, but overhere in Blighty and Europe, very few are getting near that sustained.

I'm with noop, on this one although I suspect I will look somewhat better in a leather skirt and Roman Legionnaire armour. Although in my case could be a touch more "ohhhh, titter me not" (one for the oldies).........

Oh and Russ, although I can see manike's cynical streak coming through here, but it's an interesting solution as it could be argued that it disarms the safety arguments against F/A. Can't wait to see what happens in the UK testcase currently being planned / going through, well so the shoe-shine man tells me.......
 

Russell Smith

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Originally posted by stongle
Can't wait to see what happens in the UK testcase currently being planned / going through, well so the shoe-shine man tells me.......

Glen if the test case ever gets to court, and I doubt it ever will, that will only be about the legality of using a paintball marker in FA mode in the United Kingdom.
Since the UKPSK, who the home office recognise as the governing body, are more than likely to oppose FA, I think the court may well be influenced by their opinion.

Also, if it became legal I still doubt it would allowed in UK tournament play.

Russ
 

Stan

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Has the insurance issue of using FA in US tournaments been sorted? I was led to believe that the insurers were less than happy (ie - you wouldn't be insured if injured by an FA marker allowed on the field by the organisers).
 

Baca Loco

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Give the people what they want!

S'why these guns get made and offered in the first place and regardless of whether the "system" used by the NXL can actually maintain the set limits doing this would go a long way to separating the leagues further. Wanna play with your F/A gun no hassle? Play PSP!
 

manike

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Originally posted by stongle
Sustained 15 bps is pretty fcuking fast. I'm not sure what the uber So*Cal kidz are shoosting these days, but overhere in Blighty and Europe, very few are getting near that sustained.
I agree.

I've been preaching for yonks that people aren't getting the ROF they claim or the little LCD tells them they are...

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Like you ever doubted I wuz wrong Simon...
Wasn't doubting you. Just didn't want it to happen. I always knew FA in some form was around to stay. It's too common over here.

Originally posted by Stan
Has the insurance issue of using FA in US tournaments been sorted? I was led to believe that the insurers were less than happy (ie - you wouldn't be insured if injured by an FA marker allowed on the field by the organisers).
Not sure, but I think they are still trying to look at this as 'not really FA'.

Originally posted by Baca Loco
S'why these guns get made and offered in the first place and regardless of whether the "system" used by the NXL can actually maintain the set limits doing this would go a long way to separating the leagues further. Wanna play with your F/A gun no hassle? Play PSP!
So true. It does seem to be what the players want, and how they are playing currently.

It is customer demand that gets things like this accepted and developed further.

With this seperating the leagues I wonder if thats a good move by the PSP and will get people back? Or will it push people away?

Time will tell.

My concern, is that I don't think most players are responsible enough as it is, let alone when it becomes easier. The judges need to step up and start imposing decent over shooting penalties or... :(
 

Stan

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Hhhhmmm 3 shots then it goes FA???

How can that not be FA? How is it going to work? 3 shots over 15bps then just hold the trigger or what?

How soon til the cheaters change the boards to 2 pulls then FA, then 1 then none (again):rolleyes: :) :(