Tha 3 Major Leagues

[TJ Lambini]

An objective view from a US baller...

NXL- the nxl is what you call paintballs NBA, but theres a twist it has the best ballers and teams out there yet all the other teams in super 7 and millenium are making way more cash its almost as if Richmond is waiting for the sign of the apocalypse to make all his plans come true, then out of the clouds comes the angel of gabriel wait no its dick clark, so dick waits for 7 years and 7 more years until he finally decideds to get off his ass and put paintball on tv like everyone wines about daily, honestly what will dick clark do hes a barrel of promises thats about to be tapped and then we realze it was never full

Super 7- super 7 is the "Players League" where everythings about the the teams, yes i give them props they had a good first year but im still waiting for a real professional circuit where your really treated like athletes, and has anyone noticed that everyone always thinks they got a shot with camille, you have to relize that camille is like a stripper shes attractive and nice and reals you in to spending mad cash on her and then at the end you get nothing out of it besides a warm feeling in your stomach that you think is love but its really in digetion from the #####ty food you get at paintball events

lets not forget the millenium series actually ##### it lets forget it since no one plays it anymore but dynasty and there many a punching bags

so all in all folks what does next season have in store for us will it be tv, will it be massive player contracts reaching 6 figures and 2 year deals with terms, how about a well run league thats actually proffesional i think not so keep hoping cause i know i will

>>>Realistic, pessimistic or Bacalistic?

NB Tha above is NOT my view, but one I found online elsewhere...you can have my view in a coupla weeks time.

 

[stongle]

whasssuupppp?

whoaahhh duder, did they screw up your Mexican Christmas presents again down at Taco Bell?

Dammnnn, I hate it when you get like only a nugget in the Spicy Chicken Burrito.

 

[TJ Lambini]

Not my view duder, but that of one of my nameless countrymen who inhabits a certain board of ill-repute...just thought it was interesting enough to migrate to tha land of posters with IQs over 22...

 

[stongle]

Bummer, sorry about that thought you was being omniscient in reverse kinda

ignore me I'm having a bad one too. Thrown a coupla of those low brows into the Milling machine to feed to Rancid's goats.

 

[Duncster]

Having a bad day Teej?

From the perspective of an ex-UK-Domestic-turned-follower-of-the-Major-Leagues type person, if you had asked me 3 years ago to comment on the future of paintball, I would never have guessed that todays promoters could actually pull off the stuff they're doing now. I would have put us at the level of a good UK domestic tourney is now. No more. Now look at Vegas, HB, or Toulouse...

I personally think that what has been achieved this year has been outstanding on pretty much every level, with attention paid to all facets of tourney organisation and a seemingly attentive attitude to the needs and requirements of the players. ie, more unnecessary extra's to keep things interesting, rather than the old "let's do just enough to get the job done" attitude.

Of course there's still a long way to go, and I've yet to see a decent quality X-ball game on DVD, let alone TV, but the ball's rolling now. I think the interest in small screen presentation of modern tournament paintball will take off big time after the Fox Sports run of the 2003 NPPL shows.

After the World Cup 2003, I think it fair to presume that the X-Ball type format, and any variations on the theme, will become the expected norm by the end of the 2004 season for both players and spectators alike, in all Major League Series'.

As for money. Hell, we're not even a sport yet in most governments eyes. We're a hobby!! A Pasttime!! Once the TV contracts start rolling in, and the public perception of paintball improves, the money will follow. If that's all it means to you. We were in trees less than five years ago for funks sake!! Anything's better than that!! (Apologies to all recball players and tree hugging hippies)

It's all good. As long as the problems are coninually addressed, and as long as the promoters LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS, things will only keep improving, and I think the 2003 series has proved that magnificently.

Dunc.

 

[Duncster]

sorry Teej. I thought it was from you.... disregard the first line

D.

 

[Just Curious]

Personally, I think we are worrying about something that will, IMO never affect 90% of Paintballers!

Lets be honest here, even IF NXL does manage to get a slot on and lets face it, an obscure TV Channel, do you really think it will make any difference to the majority of Paintballers across the World? I don't!

The only people this will affect are the Pro Teams in the NXL and the Franchise owners. I have heard all the talk that if we get on TV the money will start rolling into our 'Sport'....probably...but how will this matter to us, the Novice, Am B, Am A and the majority of European 'Pro' teams, with a few noteable exceptions? I have heard it said that the more money coming into the Sport the cheaper things will be for the Players......B***ocks! Cheaper for the Top end Pro Teams but and its a big BUT, they are the exact people that don't need it when you consider that even at the moment, without this 'fabled' media/TV coverage, they pay for 'Sweet Fanny Adam' already!

Has anybody noticed any change in the cost to play a Tournament lately??.....I have.....Its getting more bloody expensive! So how, and I really want to understand this concept, does the advent of NXL and TV/Media coverage equate to less expense to us, the 'Joe Bloggs' Paintballer? I guess what I'm trying to say is that if this cash does materialise will the likes of Planet, WDP, DYE and all the other small Paintball companies reduce their prices? Will the Paint manufactures reduce theirs? Will we see cheaper entry fees to Tournaments? Again, IMO I can't see it!

Now before all the flames start, I am not saying that the NXL or the likes should not exist, its only right that the true 'Pro' teams should have a stage to strutt their stuff but what is so wrong with the formats that are already being used in the likes of the 'Super 7 Series' and the 'Millenium'? or the Local Tournament, be it 5-man or 7-man?
As I have said, the majority of Paintballers can only dream of reaching the heights of the Top Pros. We play for 'unknown' teams in local leagues/Tournaments with the odd excursion to some of the bigger events...........so why worry? It really is not going to affect us!

There endeth my 'Rant'.........let the 'Flaming' begin.....but before you do be aware.........I really don't care!

 

[Urban]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
An objective view from a US baller...

NXL- the nxl is what you call paintballs NBA, but theres a twist it has the best ballers and teams out there yet all the other teams in super 7 and millenium are making way more cash its almost as if Richmond is waiting for the sign of the apocalypse to make all his plans come true, then out of the clouds comes the angel of gabriel wait no its dick clark, so dick waits for 7 years and 7 more years until he finally decideds to get off his ass and put paintball on tv like everyone wines about daily, honestly what will dick clark do hes a barrel of promises thats about to be tapped and then we realze it was never full

The NXL has the best teams? Really? Russian Legion anyone.. or how about Nexus? Oh, ok then the best teams in America maybe. Hmm, anyone heard of Dynasty? I sorta got lost with his "End Times" references after that, and "wines" really threw me.. does everyone over in the USA drink daily? Maybe those that play the NXL do, knowing they will never truly be regarded as "The Best" until they can play a season of NXL against Dynasty and win.

Super 7- super 7 is the "Players League" where everythings about the the teams, yes i give them props they had a good first year but im still waiting for a real professional circuit where your really treated like athletes, and has anyone noticed that everyone always thinks they got a shot with camille, you have to relize that camille is like a stripper shes attractive and nice and reals you in to spending mad cash on her and then at the end you get nothing out of it besides a warm feeling in your stomach that you think is love but its really in digetion from the #####ty food you get at paintball events

I'm waiting for a real professional circuit where I am treated like an athlete too.. but at least I realise that it ain't gonna happen until I start behaving like an athlete. A very interesting comparison of Camille though.. I get the feeling he got blown out once.

lets not forget the millenium series actually ##### it lets forget it since no one plays it anymore but dynasty and there many a punching bags

Dynasty punchbag.. wow.. I am so glad Europe is thought of so highly. Probably a good job Dynasty don't play the NXL because then his first few lines would change from "best ballers and teams out there" to "Dynasty and their punchbags"...

>>>Realistic, pessimistic or Bacalistic?

Oh, most definitely Bacalistic...

Urban

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Urban
1--The NXL has the best teams? Really? Russian Legion anyone.. or how about Nexus? Oh, ok then the best teams in America maybe. Hmm, anyone heard of Dynasty? I sorta got lost with his "End Times" references after that, and "wines" really threw me.. does everyone over in the USA drink daily? Maybe those that play the NXL do, knowing they will never truly be regarded as "The Best" until they can play a season of NXL against Dynasty and win.

2--Dynasty punchbag.. wow.. I am so glad Europe is thought of so highly. Probably a good job Dynasty don't play the NXL because then his first few lines would change from "best ballers and teams out there" to "Dynasty and their punchbags"...

3--Oh, most definitely Bacalistic...

Urban

1--regarding the quality of teams vis a vis various leagues. Please tell what your heroes, RL, have won--ever? How did they fare at Div 1 XBall? For that matter how did Dynasty fare at Div 1 XBall? Plainly Dynasty are an outstanding team and likely the best in the world but that doesn't elevate their competition.
2--honestly what has Euroland done yet to earn a different opinion? Why are Euroland's top teams traveling to play the NPPL?
3--don't go there, Chester

Btw, not doggin' Euro teams or players, just doggin' Urbs for not managing anything better than a hackneyed "defense" of Euroballers.

 

[Urban]

Re: Re: Tha 3 Major Leagues

Originally posted by Baca Loco
1--regarding the quality of teams vis a vis various leagues. Please tell what your heroes, RL, have won--ever? How did they fare at Div 1 XBall? For that matter how did Dynasty fare at Div 1 XBall? Plainly Dynasty are an outstanding team and likely the best in the world but that doesn't elevate their competition.
2--honestly what has Euroland done yet to earn a different opinion? Why are Euroland's top teams traveling to play the NPPL?
3--don't go there, Chester

Btw, not doggin' Euro teams or players, just doggin' Urbs for not managing anything better than a hackneyed "defense" of Euroballers.

It was never intended as a defence, hackneyed or otherwise, of Euroballers or I would have convieniently forgot all about Dynasty. Incidentally I believe an entire season playing NXL would end all speculation about Dynasty being the best team on the planet. But I'm guessing that won't happen.

Euroland may have done nothing to earn a different opinion to the one stated. But again, put Dynasty into a season of NXL and I believe the "punchbags" statement will be applicable to the NXL this time next year. It was a cheap shot and I treated it as such. I fully expect the NXL to be renamed the World Paintball Series next year, like the World Baseball Series, with only American teams participating.

For the record, the NXL clearly does not have the all best teams "out there", Dick Clarks input will turn out to be over-rated, Camille is nice but not my cup of tea, next season will not have enough TV to make any difference to anyone, there will be pretty much the same standard of tournaments we've had this year, and things will only get professional when we do.

I've always thought the use of "professional" with regard to paintball panders more to ego's than actually describing a standard..

Oh, and who's Chester?