Those are both WAY cool, Skeet. OS Commerce is (as the name might suggest) open source too, which is cool: no licensing BS to wade through. Plus you can demo their software online (http://www.oscommerce.com/shops/demonstration). Nice finds. So with both of these solutions being so easy and convenient to implement, and available free of charge, one has to wonder why the Skeet Paintball Warehouse has yet to be built?