Hi . Anyone ever used a scuba bailout tank to power there gun ?
3ltr one strapped to there back or something ?
Cheers
3ltr one strapped to there back or something ?
Cheers
Scuba bailout bottle
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It's an air source, however there could be other issues - what is the regulated output pressure? Scuba cylinders are used in mobile fill stations with an unregulated output of its full pressure at 210bar (3000psi) or 300bar (4500psi)
A remote full line may show maximum 3000psi etc but they are designed to operate at 850psi from a regulated paintball cylinder. They cannot run with unregulated air
Even though many paintball guns have regulators they expect an input pressure of 850psi or less
Next what fittings does it have?
How is it filled?
Would it pass being shown to a sites 'air man'?
When I had a cylinder with the local dive centre for arranging testing they told me it could have been sold numerous times to divers wanting it as a pony/bailout cylinder
If you are asking the question as an idea to use one as a larger paintball cylinder then there are large paintball cylinders around
So all you would have to do is slap a regulator On the tank to give it an output of 850 and run a line off that to the gun . Hmm
I only ask because The stuff that's made and sold for paintball seems a little over priced And I can get scuba tanks cheaper lol
I only ask because The stuff that's made and sold for paintball seems a little over priced And I can get scuba tanks cheaper lol
It could get questions raised as to whether it is suitable
It will need to be obviously uk legal, and fit for purpose.
If you were able to demonstrate that at the site and they are happy then you can use it
My recommendation to players is to not splash out on fibre cylinders at £150 but to go for an 3000psi aluminium cylinder at £30 to £40
This will cover most requirements, at 3000psi is the equivalent capacity of a 48ci 4500psi, and the weight of a 68cl
At £30 to £40 compared to £150 for a fibre they are not only cheaper but you can buy 20 or 25 years worth for the £50 less then £200 for using a fibre for 15 years
It will need to be obviously uk legal, and fit for purpose.
If you were able to demonstrate that at the site and they are happy then you can use it
My recommendation to players is to not splash out on fibre cylinders at £150 but to go for an 3000psi aluminium cylinder at £30 to £40
This will cover most requirements, at 3000psi is the equivalent capacity of a 48ci 4500psi, and the weight of a 68cl
At £30 to £40 compared to £150 for a fibre they are not only cheaper but you can buy 20 or 25 years worth for the £50 less then £200 for using a fibre for 15 years
what sort of marker are you using that you need 3ltr of air????? 
put that money into buying a more efficient marker!!!
put that money into buying a more efficient marker!!!
It's not that it uses 3ltrs it's more that I can get hold of a 3ltr tank for next to nothing and I am not going to be using it at public sites , it will be on privet land with no access to refills .
I was going to get a 3000 Ali tank as well . like you say for use on public sites .
I was going to get a 3000 Ali tank as well . like you say for use on public sites .
I'd just get the tank cheap if you can and use it to refill a normal paintball cylinder either alloy or carbon wrapped.new if alloy £80 +ish on here for second hand carbon, with a reg.
Buy a second hand fill station off here.
Even 3 litre pony cylinders are quite heavy and bulky when full.Especially 300 bar ones.
Obviously this don't matter underwater as they are slightly negative when full and buoyant when empty.
You would either have to carry it in a rucksack or make up something to carry on your back,as they are usually side slung for easy access or mounted vertical on a clamp to divers other bottles.
So really its not worth bothering about carrying all that air around,just fill up when you fill up with paint.
Buy a second hand fill station off here.
Even 3 litre pony cylinders are quite heavy and bulky when full.Especially 300 bar ones.
Obviously this don't matter underwater as they are slightly negative when full and buoyant when empty.
You would either have to carry it in a rucksack or make up something to carry on your back,as they are usually side slung for easy access or mounted vertical on a clamp to divers other bottles.
So really its not worth bothering about carrying all that air around,just fill up when you fill up with paint.
I wouldn't encourage playing off site
It's dependant on your circumstances though - as long as access is controlled, all safety issues are dealt with and it's a legal location, and there is permission then you are generally ok at your own risk. You can pick up liability for anyone you let play
If its public land then its illegal, farmland is dodgy as though it would be generaly consider private it can be classed as public due to business use
A better setup then using a small cylinder for playing will be to get a fill rig, all you need is the appropriate scuba to paintball adaptor then use the scuba to refill your paintball cylinder
Start with both pre-filled and don't run down the paintball cylinder too much, keep topping it up
If you have both cylinders at 3000psi then only top up the paintball one to something like 2500psi, this will drain down the scuba pressure at a lesser rate and get you more fills
If you have a 4500psi scuba cylinder you can still fill a 3000psi cylinder to capacity but do it with caution and slowly paying close attention to the paintball cylinders pressure gauge
Keep clear of be burst disks as these will do the job of protecting you if you accidentally go too far - but you don't want you hand in front of a burst disk if it blows
Wear gloves for protection - but still avoid putting your gloved hand on a burst disk
The disadvantage of wearing gloves is you cannot feel the heat generated to remind you to slow the full
The advantage is they help protect from any high pressure air blowing around if something fails
More info with a video and the UKPSF air safety information on this thread
http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/refill-adapter.159313/#post-1443097
It's dependant on your circumstances though - as long as access is controlled, all safety issues are dealt with and it's a legal location, and there is permission then you are generally ok at your own risk. You can pick up liability for anyone you let play
If its public land then its illegal, farmland is dodgy as though it would be generaly consider private it can be classed as public due to business use
A better setup then using a small cylinder for playing will be to get a fill rig, all you need is the appropriate scuba to paintball adaptor then use the scuba to refill your paintball cylinder
Start with both pre-filled and don't run down the paintball cylinder too much, keep topping it up
If you have both cylinders at 3000psi then only top up the paintball one to something like 2500psi, this will drain down the scuba pressure at a lesser rate and get you more fills
If you have a 4500psi scuba cylinder you can still fill a 3000psi cylinder to capacity but do it with caution and slowly paying close attention to the paintball cylinders pressure gauge
Keep clear of be burst disks as these will do the job of protecting you if you accidentally go too far - but you don't want you hand in front of a burst disk if it blows
Wear gloves for protection - but still avoid putting your gloved hand on a burst disk
The disadvantage of wearing gloves is you cannot feel the heat generated to remind you to slow the full
The advantage is they help protect from any high pressure air blowing around if something fails
More info with a video and the UKPSF air safety information on this thread
http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/refill-adapter.159313/#post-1443097
Yeah don't worry it's all safe and the land is privet . Yeah might just go for using it as a fill rig .
Cheers bays
Cheers bays
Its getting the air from the tank to the gun, pony cylinders > valve > pball conector > marker ..
Then are you using a standard 232bar pony or a 300bar . . cause they can get a bit heavy.
Just get 2 pb tanks and manifold them, cobra do tthe kit.
Although I do have a twinset, id be able to shoot about 7 cases of paint . . sweeeeeeeeeet
EDIT: using as a fill station??? Get 15L tanks, they dont cost more than 12Ls . . be aware of getting them filled, they need to be in test to get them done at the dive shop.
Then are you using a standard 232bar pony or a 300bar . . cause they can get a bit heavy.
Just get 2 pb tanks and manifold them, cobra do tthe kit.
Although I do have a twinset, id be able to shoot about 7 cases of paint . . sweeeeeeeeeet
EDIT: using as a fill station??? Get 15L tanks, they dont cost more than 12Ls . . be aware of getting them filled, they need to be in test to get them done at the dive shop.