Rules !!

[Ledz]

Hello everyone,

I’ve been away on my hols and haven’t seen or read the whole EXL thing, but I do have a question. At the moment we have a rules problem between the Millennium and the NPPL / NXL and thus the EXL with regards to the hand signals being used.

In the millennium they use hands crossing in front of the judge as being "Out" where in the NPPL/NXL this mean “Clean”. They also have the ref putting his hand on his head and pointing at the players in the NPPL / NXL as being “Out” and in the Millennium this means “Neutral”. (I hope this is right, I’ve had a few) anyway, I understand why they have done this, in baseball the hands crossing means “Safe” (or in) and that is what the yanks use, but it was WDP that started the hand signals at Hyperball and they used the crossing arms as “Out”..... Which one should we use?? I have played many times using both sets of rules and it does cause problems. We need to make the rules universal..

The powers that be need to make a decision. I have a hard enough job as it is remembering stuff (I am old) without other random stuff like this!

LEDZ

p.s. are there any threads I need to read to get back up to speed on the EXL stuff ?

Happy New Year All !

 

[Gyroscope]

I think it is only fair to comproimise on issues like this. Since we in America have been willing to shoot so many of your markers, like the Angel, and use aftermarket systems, like the eBlade and Race frames, and even adapt to European conventions like inflated "bunkers" on "speedball" fields, you guys should chuck all those strange hand signals and do all that stuff our way.










disclaimer: This post is intended to be a humourous suggestion, not further evidence of American arrogance or imperialism, but mockery of that reputation. All resemblance to worldviews both living and dead is intended for satirical purposes. All rights reserved 2003.

 

[Baca Loco]

That's an easy one, Ledz. You'll do as you're told. The NXL has established signals and as y'all are now a wholly owned subsidiary of Dick Clark and XBall you will respond accordingly.
As with the rest of these subjects it may be debated around here but it isn't open for debate.

 

[manike]

I also agree this is confusing and have been caught out by it many times when playing in the USA. Walking out thinking you were elminated when a judge just called you clean, quickly becomes frustrating!

But why not do as all the American pro's do? Stay in until a judge physically pulls you off the field...

Playing regularly over here makes you appreciate just how 'clean' European players tend to be in comparison to the USA.

 

[JoseDominguez]

Hmmmmmmm, interesting point....... nice to hear from the colonies though



he he, had a similar one at work..... Makaton (autism sign language) signal for "finished" is raised fists, thumbs up........... Makaton is from the US.....so it's an adapted baseball "out" took us a while to work that out.

As for staying in until the judge pulls you off??????
Wow, they play it differently over there don't they.... explains why white fill paint is so popular

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by manike
I also agree this is confusing and have been caught out by it many times when playing in the USA. Walking out thinking you were elminated when a judge just called you clean, quickly becomes frustrating!

Only reffed in the States once (Orlando 2002). All the officials on my field were Brits and we used the European signals which confused a few of the locals. However during a few conversations with American players in which I demonstrated our way of doing things most actually said they preferred our signals because they said they were easier to see

I think it was the way that the baseball style hands crossing in front "safe" move is often done low and stooped (like in Baseball itself)

 

[Stan]

Anyone care to do a comparison between US signals and Euro? Personally i'm not sure what signals mean what? I thought that safe in baseball was flinging your arms out wide and screaming safe? NO?

 

[sjt19]

In Europe Safe is the waving of the hand in the air meaning play on. And the hands arew crossed as a sign of Elimination

In the USA safe is the crossing of the hands a few times, exactly the same as the 'Eliminated' call in Europe.

In the USA to signal elimination the ref will put his hand on his head and point at you. Which isnt all that clear to players on other parts of the field.

 

[Stan]

In that case then, surely the Euro ones are easier to see!

Waving your arm above your head has got to be easier to see than crossing your arms in front of your body which at best can only be seen from one direction!

Similarly, if hand on head and pointing isn't clear enough, throwing your arms out wide and then pointing could be visual enough to make it clear...?

 

[jahlad]

would be far easier if everyone with paint on them stoped fireing and walked calmly off the field!

or is that a bit wishfull!

never played in the states but i can see the confusion!