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Dazzer13

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Hi, an idea maybe

the one thing that i am having problems with my marker is that it needs a 9V battry and 2X 9V for my revy, so i have had to dish out about £24 for 3x Rechargeable battery, but y, wouldn't it be easier if all markers came with a universal battery recharges, and for Revy especially because they eats batteries. I no there are some device that help like the intelly feeds and there good but there not for all markers, but I no a friend who is having problems looking for an angels recharger but I is looking at 60 new and can’t find ne second hand so wouldn’t it be easy to have a universal adaptor.

I recon with the revy they could be like mobiles and have a dedicated battery, which you can rechange when ever, and then you wont have the problem of geting new batterys for it? :D

Cheers


Dazzer13
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jahlad

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rechargeables run at a slightly lower voltage than normal batterys so reduce performance slightly....otherwise we would all be using em!
 

NulodPBall

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Originally posted by jahlad
rechargeables run at a slightly lower voltage than normal batterys so reduce performance slightly....otherwise we would all be using em!
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Actually this is only partly true. Many of the MAJOR battery manufacturers make lower voltage (7.4v, 8.2v, etc) NiMh batteries that are sold as 9v batteries, but if you shop around, and bring a voltage meter with you, you can find batteries that are rated at 9v true, or higher...I've had some peak out at 10v fresh off the recharger. True, they appear not to last as long as the heavy duty alkaline, but that's what the recharger and spare batteries are for (ie make a routine of recharging them a few days before every practice and rotate the batteries so you always have a fresh spare set). Actually, the power curves between the NiMh and the alkaline are different, but one set easily lasts for 3 days of tourney play, and for the finals, I pop in a fresh set and put the old ones on the travel charger I bring with me.
There are several brands that top out at 9v+ and you can order them online. The kind I use are Vartecs and are colored black and work well enough for me. Some of the online places offer a good package deal where you get a decent recharging unit with the batteries. Don't go cheap on the recharging unit, it's the most important component. The ones that sense the needed voltage and automatically supply what's needed and then shut off automatically are the best, and not much more expensive than the cheap units. Next best, and more common are the ones that just time how long the battery has been charging and then shuts off the current. Worst are the ones that just charge the battery, no matter how long they're in the charger. A fast charger in a small form (charging time is 1 to 4 hrs) is great for traveling but the fast charge is usually harder on the battery. You don't have to have a full charge for the battery to be useful, but it helps. My 9v sometimes takes two days to recharge on my usual charger, and sometimes a little under a day-and-a-half for a full charge from being almost fully drained, but an overnight charge is also good enough. My AA's usually recharge fully overnight.
If you really wanted to, and you know how to use a soldering iron, you could wire up a charging jack for ANY gun, and any hopper. Just have the Jack isolate that battery while charging. The only real issue is how to mount the jack cleanly, and finding a cap to cover it (I'm in favor of gluing a trimmed rubber eraser to a rubber tire patch for the jack cover). Then all you have to do is run wires from the charging unit you bought, to the male part of the jack and you have an in-gun charger. The only thing about recharging a battery inside something is that the battery can generate alot of heat, and heat is bad for electronics and batteries.
I've been thinking about doing this for a long time, but I know that the devil is in the details and I'd want the install to look pretty and I'm waiting for W.A.S. to enable the pager motor output for their 'timmy board, so space might be a little tight in my grip frame...there is a little space below the ram cap though...I've even considered using contact patches instead of a jack so that there's no hole in the frame for water/dirt to get into, with a transistor setup that will automatically disconnect the battery from the board while electricity is applied to the contact patches. Of course adding anything to your gun automatically increases your chances of something going wrong, but I seem to remember it was like pulling teeth to get Smart Parts to admit that the Shocker could use an On/Off switch so we had to wire in one of our own, along with a blinking LED so that I knew for sure that the gun was on (sometimes the switch needed a little nudge) just before the game starts so home grown projects are sometimes a Good Thing :)

Ray "That's not a blowtorch I'm using on your gun, it just my lighter" N.
 

Silentbob

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This is true

Also, rechareable batteries have come on in leaps and bounds regarding their prolonged capacity. I have some very nice 200mah and 250mah PP3 batteries, and the 200mah runs very nice in my Eblade. I tried swapping the good old AAs in my halo for a single 250mah pp3, but it puffed out mid day at MM R5, so I am going to test it with 6x2200mah AA Nimh ones on sunday.

2 of these puppies will run a 12v revvy quite happily and an EVOII Egg as well, saves a lot in the long term.

(disclaimer - rechargeables at this time are not supported by the manufacturer, please check before using as damage may occur)

Phew, nerly forgot to put that in ;)
 

Bone

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i have found that putting the java 9.6V rechargeable batteries that come with electronic spyders in a 12v revvie actually make the thing turn considerably faster (audibly), dunno if this increases the feed rate abit, or if it will eventually burn out the servo, but i havent had any problems yet!:cool:

..also for all you electro spyder owners out there, i have noticed that putting a 9.6 Java in the gun as opposed to a normal 9V does seem to increase the fire rate the board is capable of, maybe by 1 0r 2 bps (i.e from 14 bps to 16) i belive this is because the 9.6v batts allow the solenoid capacitor to recharge at a faster rate and therefore be ready to work the solenoid sooner.
 

Rabies

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Given that the first thing that happens to the battery voltage in a 12V revvy is being fed into a 12V regulator, any pair of batteries that output more than about 14V between them will work the same. I always ran 8.4v NiMH cells in my revvy, and they ran like a dream. 9.6v cells won't make any difference.
 

Bone

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..but they do! Compared to fresh out-of-the-packet duracells (dunno what true voltage or mAh they are) you can clearly hear the motor running faster. I didn't say that these things are 170mAh, maybe thats why.....
 

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Originally posted by Rabies
Given that the first thing that happens to the battery voltage in a 12V revvy is being fed into a 12V regulator, any pair of batteries that output more than about 14V between them will work the same. I always ran 8.4v NiMH cells in my revvy, and they ran like a dream. 9.6v cells won't make any difference.
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I'm with Bone on this one, and fresh/higher voltage batteries DO make a difference. If your fire rate is slow (under 10 bps) you'll never notice except by listening to the motor when you switch batteries; if your fire rate is fast (above 12 bps) you'll definitely notice as you'll get skips and possibly chops. There's nothing like having your gun shoot dry JUST as you're finally zeroing in on them on their initial run off the break :mad: I think the softer, flexible paddles make a difference in preventing jamming at the higher rates of fire (white rubber or weedwacker for Revs, Eggs, and Ricochets), especially with the dry shell paint out now.
Also, I do think the increased voltage to the gun's solenoid helps with the solenoid's recharge rate. After all, that's what the WAS board does with the Intimidator. I think the WAS board increases the power to the 'Timmy's solenoid by a factor of 4 or so...check the specs.

Ray