I've been re-reading some of the old thread in the new Gold Forum and it's offered some additional perspective as I've been following along some of the latest debates. And I've come to the conclusion the Montana and Raehl are probably right. Look, Tee's got some of the inside scoop. He knows the drill, he's been around a long time. The promoters have been doin' this for 10 years now or thereabouts and it should be apparent to anyone willing to consider things rationally that they are doing the best they can and apparently have been losing money all the while. So while y'all carp about what you don't have just think where'd you be without 'em. Who else would take all the abuse, put in all the effort, continue to throw money down a rat hole and for what? So the teams they run can play paintball?
I mean, think about it, as little as three years ago there were maybe 50-60 teams tops at the non World Cup event. If the guys can't make a buck with 200 teams imagine how desperate times were when they had a fraction of that number participating.
And as for Chris, okay, so he's young and arrogant. At least he's been there and done that. Where you been? Before you know the uh, NCPA will be as big as the NCAA. Seems to me he's actually been pretty patient in repeating the same stuff over and over again for all you thickies. If you ain't getting it now you probably never will.
It's also clear to me that Super 7 is a pipedream that has no chance to succeed without massive infusions of somebody's cash as that's the only way it's worked before. I mean, consider the example of college pball. It's all about economizing and keeping expenses down. Kinda like the Euros except they have the advantage of being cheaper over there, and subsidized, right? Or was that the college teams? But forget that as it's the big events that count anyway.
So let's break down WC and maybe you people will finally get a handle on the situation. Ya got fields. 12 airball fields. Except those were provided by various corporate sponsors. Okay, you got prizes. Wait a sec. Those were provided by vendors. There's lots of cheap paint. Oh, right, the paint vendors pay for the opportunity to provide cheap paint. Concessions; food and drink. Which, uh, also pays for the right to be on site and charge players, guests and visitors for food and drink. Yeah, but what about the big tent that housed the non-giant sponsor vendors. Course the vendors paid for their spaces with cash and merchandise as did the big independent sponsors who had their tents on site too. But there was the air supply system. Big money, that. Of course it can be used over and over again for years and as a capitol investment can be depreciated over a period of time as well as having the initial cost amortized over a period of time as well but still . . And the netting for twelve fields which actually kinda falls into the same category as the air system but that stuff still needs to be transported around. That's gotta be a pretty piece of change. And there were the refs to pay--all three or four of them per field. But the real issue is labor costs. That's what gobbles up the green and y'all know it's true.
So there you have it. We get a series to play and what do the promoters get? Grief. I mean what value does any of this have to anyone but the players, after all?
I mean, think about it, as little as three years ago there were maybe 50-60 teams tops at the non World Cup event. If the guys can't make a buck with 200 teams imagine how desperate times were when they had a fraction of that number participating.
And as for Chris, okay, so he's young and arrogant. At least he's been there and done that. Where you been? Before you know the uh, NCPA will be as big as the NCAA. Seems to me he's actually been pretty patient in repeating the same stuff over and over again for all you thickies. If you ain't getting it now you probably never will.
It's also clear to me that Super 7 is a pipedream that has no chance to succeed without massive infusions of somebody's cash as that's the only way it's worked before. I mean, consider the example of college pball. It's all about economizing and keeping expenses down. Kinda like the Euros except they have the advantage of being cheaper over there, and subsidized, right? Or was that the college teams? But forget that as it's the big events that count anyway.
So let's break down WC and maybe you people will finally get a handle on the situation. Ya got fields. 12 airball fields. Except those were provided by various corporate sponsors. Okay, you got prizes. Wait a sec. Those were provided by vendors. There's lots of cheap paint. Oh, right, the paint vendors pay for the opportunity to provide cheap paint. Concessions; food and drink. Which, uh, also pays for the right to be on site and charge players, guests and visitors for food and drink. Yeah, but what about the big tent that housed the non-giant sponsor vendors. Course the vendors paid for their spaces with cash and merchandise as did the big independent sponsors who had their tents on site too. But there was the air supply system. Big money, that. Of course it can be used over and over again for years and as a capitol investment can be depreciated over a period of time as well as having the initial cost amortized over a period of time as well but still . . And the netting for twelve fields which actually kinda falls into the same category as the air system but that stuff still needs to be transported around. That's gotta be a pretty piece of change. And there were the refs to pay--all three or four of them per field. But the real issue is labor costs. That's what gobbles up the green and y'all know it's true.
So there you have it. We get a series to play and what do the promoters get? Grief. I mean what value does any of this have to anyone but the players, after all?
