Cmon people..Im hearing conflicting reports on the event..No Dead Boxes,Scheduling Problems,and refs seem to be on the agenda today..And I heard the Fairplex was charging for parking??Anybody else hearing this??
PSP LA..What The Skinny??
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Hey,
Hearing similar
Ref - yup, seems WC set a precedant.
Dead boxes - seems they don't exist full stop, no tents, no nothing
Armbands - apparently not enough first day.
Parking - $6, way to attract people.
Security - non exisitant, the players are staging in an area open to the public, I've seen about 3 stolen gun reports already and numerous posting of people losing paint.
Scheduling - seems to be OK although a couple of fields have had problems. It appears the long walk for the players from staging is a problem. However, the lights have kept it from being a major issue.
One comment I saw was "same old PSP, just on grass". will be interesting what peeps have to say about it afterwards.
Perhaps LA will be the event where they turn it around?
Hearing similar
Ref - yup, seems WC set a precedant.
Dead boxes - seems they don't exist full stop, no tents, no nothing
Armbands - apparently not enough first day.
Parking - $6, way to attract people.
Security - non exisitant, the players are staging in an area open to the public, I've seen about 3 stolen gun reports already and numerous posting of people losing paint.
Scheduling - seems to be OK although a couple of fields have had problems. It appears the long walk for the players from staging is a problem. However, the lights have kept it from being a major issue.
One comment I saw was "same old PSP, just on grass". will be interesting what peeps have to say about it afterwards.
Perhaps LA will be the event where they turn it around?
So far your info has been pretty accurate.
Yes they did charge for parking, but, each team got 2 free passes.
Nope, they did not have dead boxes and there were many problems with dead players then coming to the side of the field and causing problems.
The X-ball being between the other fields seemed to make people think that talking, coaching and yelling from the sidelines was ok in 10 man.
Schedule ran pretty well, although there is great debate over who did it and how it was done, since there was great disparity in some teams draw.
Reffing, I would have given my right arm to have the Joy Guys back.
Yes they did charge for parking, but, each team got 2 free passes.
Nope, they did not have dead boxes and there were many problems with dead players then coming to the side of the field and causing problems.
The X-ball being between the other fields seemed to make people think that talking, coaching and yelling from the sidelines was ok in 10 man.
Schedule ran pretty well, although there is great debate over who did it and how it was done, since there was great disparity in some teams draw.
Reffing, I would have given my right arm to have the Joy Guys back.
A few questions
But first, the set up. From the first run of reports it seems like more of the same, only a nicer location. So let's break it down.
How many refs on 10-man fields and who were they?
How far from the fields were the staging areas?
Since parking cost extra but other events were occurring over the weekend were there any signs around or anything directing people's attention to the PB going on?
Were there bleachers for any spectators that happened to come by? Which fields and how much seating approx.?
What was the vendor presence like? How far away were they from the action?
Is it just me or do the fractured leagues strike anybody else as being so watered down it's hard to get too excited about anybody winning in any category? I mean, the "Pros" played one game of consequence all weekend and there were twenty-seven different winners due to all the categories in play. C'mon! (Fine, 27 is a slight exaggeration but still . . .)
On the plus side grass is always good and the field layouts looked solid excepting the Division X ball layout which allowed for defensive play and probably contributed to keeping the scores lower.
And apparently a few entertainment types sniffed around Saturday. I hope they liked what they saw and something positive comes of it.
But first, the set up. From the first run of reports it seems like more of the same, only a nicer location. So let's break it down.
How many refs on 10-man fields and who were they?
How far from the fields were the staging areas?
Since parking cost extra but other events were occurring over the weekend were there any signs around or anything directing people's attention to the PB going on?
Were there bleachers for any spectators that happened to come by? Which fields and how much seating approx.?
What was the vendor presence like? How far away were they from the action?
Is it just me or do the fractured leagues strike anybody else as being so watered down it's hard to get too excited about anybody winning in any category? I mean, the "Pros" played one game of consequence all weekend and there were twenty-seven different winners due to all the categories in play. C'mon! (Fine, 27 is a slight exaggeration but still . . .)
On the plus side grass is always good and the field layouts looked solid excepting the Division X ball layout which allowed for defensive play and probably contributed to keeping the scores lower.
And apparently a few entertainment types sniffed around Saturday. I hope they liked what they saw and something positive comes of it.
Refs, about 7 on average. I think the pro refs were all on the x-ball, or at least I did not notice them on the other fields.
Staging was FAR, I am surprised that the schedule did not get further behind, but lots of the teams drug their paint to the field and stayed there (since the air was set up by the field).
There were some signs at the entrance that we were requested to use, but I don't know about the other entrances.
There were bleachers, that was a plus.
Vendors were set up by the staging area, that was ok.
Playing on the grass was great.
My humble predictions will be you will see a big east coast/west coast split, unfortunately. I think you would have already seen it except west coast will participate in LA & Vegas since there are no travel costs involved. This would be the time for PSP to really step up to keep the teams who played Super 7, and I don't think they did.
One good thing, I think you will see a lot of teams move up (especially out of novice), since several teams I spoke with were flabbergasted that teams like Hostile, who played rookie at cup make the finals (Ok granted they picked up Marcus, but still) in the Am division, same goes for Legacy, didn't make semis as Novice at Cup makes the grade in pro. I am not bashing them at all, in fact, they were smarter than we were! There should be a lot of moves up, for those who choose to spend their money at PSP Vegas.
Staging was FAR, I am surprised that the schedule did not get further behind, but lots of the teams drug their paint to the field and stayed there (since the air was set up by the field).
There were some signs at the entrance that we were requested to use, but I don't know about the other entrances.
There were bleachers, that was a plus.
Vendors were set up by the staging area, that was ok.
Playing on the grass was great.
My humble predictions will be you will see a big east coast/west coast split, unfortunately. I think you would have already seen it except west coast will participate in LA & Vegas since there are no travel costs involved. This would be the time for PSP to really step up to keep the teams who played Super 7, and I don't think they did.
One good thing, I think you will see a lot of teams move up (especially out of novice), since several teams I spoke with were flabbergasted that teams like Hostile, who played rookie at cup make the finals (Ok granted they picked up Marcus, but still) in the Am division, same goes for Legacy, didn't make semis as Novice at Cup makes the grade in pro. I am not bashing them at all, in fact, they were smarter than we were! There should be a lot of moves up, for those who choose to spend their money at PSP Vegas.
from a teams point of view do you think any team will abandon PSP in future as a result? or will they just play both as long as the dates don't clash?
Well that would depend on who is funding the team. For those of us that are still paying our own way, without a doubt. We would not be able to afford to both for long.
What an amazing experience!
I'm in LA now, the day after the event ended. Watched, even ran the scoreboard, on some of the NXL games so's I could learn the whole shooting match. It was, least said, EXHILARATING.
The reffing on both X-ball fields was top-notch overall. Can't really comment on the other fields.
Will give a fuller report of what I saw when I get back home.
Some incredibly big things are brewing that may even exceed the rumors.
Laters,
Steve
I'm in LA now, the day after the event ended. Watched, even ran the scoreboard, on some of the NXL games so's I could learn the whole shooting match. It was, least said, EXHILARATING.
The reffing on both X-ball fields was top-notch overall. Can't really comment on the other fields.
Will give a fuller report of what I saw when I get back home.
Some incredibly big things are brewing that may even exceed the rumors.
Laters,
Steve
Xball
I was so absorbed in Xball, I was only peripherally aware of anything else going on. I can't comment on anything other than X-ball.
What I can say is:
1. Grass was nice.
2. D1 & 2 XBall refs were INCREDIBLE. My team was more penalized than most, and I'm still saying it. Those guys didn't miss ANYTHING. They were there at 10:30 am, and they were there, one night, for a 7:15 pm game. That's a long day. And they reffed that 7:15 pm game just as well as they did the 10:30 game. I can't say enough. These guys just impressed the hell out of me.
3. Now that X-Ball has broken the taboo of spectator involvement, expect the crowds at 10-, 7-, and 5-man matches to forget themselves on a regular basis and chime in with advise for players.
4. X-Ball is addictive. If I was not hooked before LA, I am now. If you feel you didn't get your proper respect as a 10-man team, play X-Ball and you'll forget all about 10-man.
5. I heard the rumors. Laverne was there (or was it Shirely ? ) and her 12-year-old son played an exhibition match with the Philly Americans. Some other big name tv-types were there. This is all very exciting, but, even if Ted Turner himself comes down to the field and says, "lets do this" does it mean we are on TV in the next year? Two years? How long does this sort of thing take to make happen?
I was so absorbed in Xball, I was only peripherally aware of anything else going on. I can't comment on anything other than X-ball.
What I can say is:
1. Grass was nice.
2. D1 & 2 XBall refs were INCREDIBLE. My team was more penalized than most, and I'm still saying it. Those guys didn't miss ANYTHING. They were there at 10:30 am, and they were there, one night, for a 7:15 pm game. That's a long day. And they reffed that 7:15 pm game just as well as they did the 10:30 game. I can't say enough. These guys just impressed the hell out of me.
3. Now that X-Ball has broken the taboo of spectator involvement, expect the crowds at 10-, 7-, and 5-man matches to forget themselves on a regular basis and chime in with advise for players.
4. X-Ball is addictive. If I was not hooked before LA, I am now. If you feel you didn't get your proper respect as a 10-man team, play X-Ball and you'll forget all about 10-man.
5. I heard the rumors. Laverne was there (or was it Shirely ? ) and her 12-year-old son played an exhibition match with the Philly Americans. Some other big name tv-types were there. This is all very exciting, but, even if Ted Turner himself comes down to the field and says, "lets do this" does it mean we are on TV in the next year? Two years? How long does this sort of thing take to make happen?