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Christian-Malera

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couple of questions Nick, (as usual)

the squares like the center back bunker on Chronic that is a regular brick , 2m high, standing up?

the sqares on the Millenium field, on the M side, 20th yard line, Tomahawk 50th yard line, Dye 40th yard, JT 50th yard lineline is that the same brick laying down?
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the squares like the center back bunker on Chronic that is a regular brick , 2m high, standing up?
Yes

the sqares on the Millenium field, on the M side, 20th yard line, Tomahawk 50th yard line, Dye 40th yard, JT 50th yard lineline is that the same brick laying down?

Nope - they are all beercans - you can see they are much migger :)

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I had the opportunity to talk to Sammy, the Jawbreaker cinematographer, during and after the DMA games. He pointed out that the action on many of the fields were difficult to record for the same reason they seemed to be difficult to ref. He also pointed out that the success of NPPL video production has had at least something to do with the fact that the fields are designed in consultation with the reffing and media production people.

A great field design has to not only be novel, interesting to play and offer new challenges but also must be open enough for spectators, video cameras and referees to follow the action.

Easier said than done, I know.
 

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Steve

I had the opportunity to talk to Sammy, the Jawbreaker cinematographer, during and after the DMA games. He pointed out that the action on many of the fields were difficult to record for the same reason they seemed to be difficult to ref. He also pointed out that the success of NPPL video production has had at least something to do with the fact that the fields are designed in consultation with the reffing and media production people.
You are absolutely right about the media thing..... it IS a concern.... but given a choice, fields should still be built predominatly for the players.

I do not agree the new type of fields are more difficult to ref..... but rather that they expose the refs that are inactive and do not move to stay ahead of the game.

Yes.... I know... it's annoying as hell that the players have started to move around, rather than sitting in the same bunker for 7 minutes shooting one way ;)

Tough break... but refs just have to learn to move a little bit, and everything will be fine ;)

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Steve

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
I do not agree the new type of fields are more difficult to ref..... but rather that they expose the refs that are inactive and do not move to stay ahead of the game.

Yes.... I know... it's annoying as hell that the players have started to move around, rather than sitting in the same bunker for 7 minutes shooting one way ;)

Tough break... but refs just have to learn to move a little bit, and everything will be fine ;)
That has to be the biggest crock of manure I've ever seen you write.

The plain truth is many, if not most, of the field designs so far this year have been a flight of someone's fancy and haven't really contributed much to anything except served some kind of novelty effect. On the contrary many of the fields have got in the way of good officiating, have encouraged wiping and playing on and have made it virtually impossible to properly cover reffing-wise, even with greater-than-usual-numbers of refs.

Many have also been harder than usual to video record.

Good field design, such as the NPPL tend to have, cover all the bases at once: attractive, fun-to-play, offer interesting new challenges for teams and are open for the cameras and refs.

Simply put, like many others have said, there have been far too many props.
 

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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
Tough break... but refs just have to learn to move a little bit, and everything will be fine ;)
Agree with Steve - that's bullsh*t Nick.

It might not be the intent of the designs, but a clear effect of these "for the players" fields they allow players to cheat more easily and make it either difficult (or impossible) to ref (although there are always some that aren't up to standard - WHATEVER sport you play)

It's not the refs fault, it's the field designers ;)