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guppy

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Just finished this week long first aid course. Got a rollocking from the tutor about bruises (have loads...play like sh**!) Aparantly, when you get a bruise (or several in my case....Russ have you chronoed yet?? 400fps is NOT legal!) Sorry, getting off the track...A bruise causes blood clots, blood clots travel around body and can lodge in heart and brain. Similar to deep vein thrombosis or 'economy class symdrome' Result if unlucky, death!!
Does this opinion of a highly trained medical professional put me off paintball...hell yes! but it won't stop me playing or marshalling!

What do you guys think??
 

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lol dude you can get a bruise from running in to furnature but you know you still have furnuture dont you. Bruises are a dime a dozen with me between football and paintball there not too bad.

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DVT ( deep vein thrombosis)

Please remeber as a trained nurse i tell you, that if you have a fit healthy ( moving- economy class syndrome) your body breaks down and reabsorbs damaged red blood cells and processess them into good things, such as bilirubin............ just a thought......:D :D
 
Ok then hows this one

As a healthy none smoking not over weight person who has had two blood clots and no not little ones.

Who has a site to run and marshalls and was playing and gets shot, like we do I got very worried and spent 3months waiting for test results to come back. and bearly leaving the kitchen :(

I don't want to discredit you but you would be at more risk on an easy jet to the sun.

In the expert at the himotoligy ( the vampire clinic) opinion there is no risk of blood clots in regular paintballng it takes deep muscle bruising to set off a clot. A heavy fall or bang to the head might be a diffrent matter, women at risk of colts and on the pill .......... russian roulett.

clots are not nice they hurt you know about it :(

As a woman we are far more likley to develope breast cancer from repeted shots to the boobs this is a reality damage to breat tissue increases your risk of breats cancer.

Sad but true

sparklie

not planning another clot but not worried either

T shirt bras a female players best freind Liz if you are reading I will search for bigger ones forthat fabulose cleaveage of yours.

No tounges ok;)
 

KillerOnion

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Ooh, that is bad news. Hopefully that won't deter more females from playing! A fair percentage of those that I would expect to want to play do a fair bit of jogging and so forth so their circulation would be pretty good--that should help, right? Gee, with all the attention we guys pay to them, didn't know that they were that sensitive...must continue with my education in that department! :D
 
Most ladies would be un aware of the potential for breast cancer and it is a repetative thing. Ie the more hit "damage " the higher the risk breast tissue is delicate.

A bruise is when the bodys tissue is "Damaged"and the cells flood with blood and cause the bruise and the marks "we" are all so used to. This in it's self is not an issue as I have explained as it is surface bruising and not deep vein clots most often form in the ateries in the legs- deep tissue.

It is more commonly an inactivity thing in high risk groups. Smokers, pregnant women, the overweight and those with family history.

But falls can also start them off or trauma ie head injury. Banannas put you at risk if you are in that catorgy, evening primrose oil too. I kid you not they are loaded with oestrogen that also sets off clotts. Hence the pill problem women DIE taking the pill some times it only takes days young other wise healthy women litterally colapse and die.

A clot in surface levle tissues would be very small and localised the problem with deep vein thrombsis is that it's in the veins and blocks them. The affected area blocks, you swell up your skin gets cold and clammy = no circulation and pressure builds up. This is when a part of a clot can be break off or if it is smaller can be pushed by sheer pressue to move. Then it will go were the flow goes it can't go just any were as you have a blood system but depending on were it is ususally head or legs it can get to your lung when stopping for oxygen, your heart when trying to pump your blood round. Or your brain when trying to feed it with oxygen. Like I said I have had 2 one in the leg :(

One as a result of a fall, on the brain. 2 weeks unconsious in hospital later. I am ok now but this is one reason my spelling gets worse when I am tiered. I have had serious head injuries I am ok now but it is not something I would or could afford to do again and if I though for one moment I was at risk from playing or marshaling I would regretably stop.

It has put me off sup air seeing the pros mug each other in the head at those distances frightens me.

I think it is some thing we will have to deal with if not now then some time.

Bearing in mind point blank head shots happen and there is no manditory requirement for any form of head protection other than goggles.

Yes we have forehead protection on our goggles and the foerhead is a more vunerable area so too the eye brow area. Look at all the scares with eye brow peircing and optic nerve damage.

It is only a thought but it does worry me I think head protection should be manditroy and women shoud wear breast protection made for us. We are diffrent and have medical complications to protect against.

I did air this before whilst waiting for my test responce and no one awnser:(

I for one am very glad this whole issue has been brought to light again.

If we are to obtain sporting staus enter the olimpics we have to be seen to be safe a very difrrent ball game.

sparklie handing over the soap box sugestions on a thread near me bottle in the sea email some time soon ;)

eddited due to spelling nastys and so not to cause offence not content:)
 
Get real Onion! every time there is a pill scare thousands of women put them selfs at risk. The abortion figures go ballistic and so to un wanted preganacys. For most of the female population it is a very safe reliable form of contraceptive.

If you want to get women paintballing we need more hunky men to drool over and they would prefer them half dressed;)

Better cleaner facilitys

And Quote the figures how many calories a days paintballing burns off I did have them once curtisy of Company ( 1 colum bit at the back) but it's up there with mind blowing sex and kissing they also said it would bring you and your man closer and boost your sex life all things which would get more women playing sorry it's true. Open virtually any 18 - 30 womens mag and they are obsessed with sex, the perfect orgasm and do our bums / thighs look big.

Welcome to the world of girl.

Surrounded by men most women would either a feel threated or paticlarly if they are cute men, want to look drop dead gougious.

Notice a few fundemental faults...............


Women are mostly very high maintence weither of the effortless this took 4 hours to look like this or the full trowel and 30 minutes job.

It also costs us a lot of money.

I do strongly belive if promoted corectly we can get more women playing but to keep them playing will be a difrent matter.

I think if you could do a survey of all the women who have played in the last 10 or even 5 years very few 2% mabey have played buy choice more than once.

Then look at what level and how long.

Add to that why they stoped.

You get my drift.

Sad but true

Also we don't like bruises they look nasty.

You get asked is your man beating up on you.

You can't wear skirts with them.

That in turn looks bad for our sport, to see our women battered and bruised is not a good advert for the sport.

Nether would be a breast cancer scare.

Like I said it needs to be clean and safe

sparklie
 

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Originally posted by KillerOnion
Could that be a possible selling point then? "Paintball--more fun than the pill AND less hazardous to your health!" Given how popular the pill is, could it work? That would be a LOT of women on the field if it did...would solve some guys' problems in here, too.
However, paintball isn't exactly a form of contraception, is it? The way most playing men talk quite the opposite, plus the adrenaline "kick" it gives makes many people - how shall I put this bearing in mind the younger people on these boards - more "up for it".

But Sparklie is right about the view of most people when it comes to women & bruises. I have a friend that came out to play one day & loved it, but her husband took one look at her bruises & banned her from ever playing again. Personally I think she's an idiot for letting him dictate to her like that but it's quite a typical attitude. Bruises on men are macho, bruises on women are "unfeminine" & unattractive.

Sparklie is also right when she talks about the facilities we need to attract more women to the sport. A man can get away with looking a bit grubby with paint in his hair, again this can be classed as "macho". Now think of the typical male reaction to a woman wearing shapeless clothes, dirt smears on her face & her hair all straggly & lank full of oily paint - and don't cite actresses in action films because they spend hours in makeup trying to get the cute but grubby look right. Women are expected to look well groomed & attractive all the time whatever they are doing. Read a few of the old threads about "we need more female players". They all end up coming down to "we need more hot looking chicks playing, or more like hanging around looking decorative for us to chat up".

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now, but decent toilets preferably with hot & cold running water and mirrors are a major plus point to any woman in the sport!
 

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Hi guys (& GALS!)
Sparklie, thankz for the input! Sorry to hear about your clots - sounds horrendous, but power to you for keeping on keepin on! I shall worry less about bruising causing serious problems thankz to your advice! I have a chest-protector but it gets so hot when playing even in British weather that i only bother wearing it when i'm marshalling if it's obvious we have some dumb ass punters who think it's funny to light up the marshals!! From now on I shall stuff some socks down my front to protect my assets & thus avoid breast cancer from bruising there! Should also give the guys a laugh to see me increase fom 36A to 36DD!! I go with what you (or was it Liz) was saying about looking ugly & people assuming your guy beats you up. So come on Smartparts, Warped Sportz etc etc, what about producing a range of feminine t-shirts for everyday wear that say something like " My fella doesnt beat on me...I play PAINTBALL"!
LOL Guppy