Nitrous system

[Poptart]

Im a new player, been playing about a month now, and im currently using a Spyder E99 with a 20 oz CO2 anti siphon. I heard many many good things about switching to a nitrous system. So now im wondering a few things.

1. Is it worth it to switch to a nitrous system? I dont plan on changing guns for a long while.

2. The psi, what different does the PSI make.

3. What do i need to fill my own tank.

 

[Jones the Paint Magnet]

Hi Poptart

Advantages of a N2 Compressed Air system are better consistency of shots, plus the gas isn't susceptible to the variations in temperature that CO2 is - so you don't have to worry about your gun drawing liquid or icing up if you go mental on the trigger! (Bet that's a temptaion on E99 )

Disadvantages - Air systems are generally more expensive to set up and where you play may not have air fills available. You also get less shots for the equivalent size - there are some figures on this board somewhere.

Some guns really work better on N2 - ask a few spyder owners what they think.

PSI is the pressure rating of the tank. A higher rating means you can use higher pressure which means more shots out of the bottle. Again, some sites or dive shops may not be able to fill to 4500 psi, just 3000 psi. Although if you have a higher rated bottle, you can always fill it to the lower pressure, no problems (you just get fewer shots).

To fill your own tank, you'd need a scuba tank or two and a fill station so you can squirt the air into your marker's tank. Dive shops can refill the tanks for you - it's probably not worth the expense and tech hassle getting a compressor yourself.

A cheaper option for air is getting a "fixed output" bottle - usually they are rated at 800-850 psi output which is what most guns run on, unless you have a low pressure set up. Most of these will just screw in where you put the CO2 bottle in at the moment. You can buy these in both 3000 psi and 4500 psi capacities.

 

[SirJinks]

1. Depends upon how you define worth it Air is cleaner than co2 so you dont risk freezing o-rings, the outside temperature affecting the pressure in your co2 bottle or velocity spikes associated with co2. It can be possibly one of the most expensive "upgrades" to move to, but if you get a good one it can last you years giving you a lot of value for money. Do consider though whether where you play regularly is able to fill air or is co2 only.

2. More psi just means more shots per tank. I believe a co2 tank fully filled is around 1200 psi, air tanks are usually 3000 or 4500 psi (you can get 5000 psi but you might have problems getting a decent fill). The upside of 4500 is that you get 1500 psi more air to shoot before you need to fill, downside is the bottles tend to cost more and as a general rule so do the regs. Make sure though you get an HSE bottle, NOT DOT!

3. You either need a generator (large and expensive) or more realistically a scuba tank prefilled with air and a clamp or fill rig to enable you to hook up your fill nipple on the reg to the scuba tank itself. Your air bottle will fill to the same pressure as the scuba tank each time you use it, with the pressure in the tank slowly going down each time you use it until you wont get a fill without re-filling your scuba tank, which you would need to take to somewhere like a dive shop.

Hope this helps.

 

[Poptart]

Thanks guys, that did help out a lot.

The field(s) i normally play at can fill the air at 4500 psi (its one of their things they use to draw players).

Reason i asked if it was worth it was that one of my friends said that its really not worth getting the nitrous for my gun (not sure why, he didnt really explain).

I dont think i would have any problems freezing my o-rings (at least not majorly) since its an anti siphon tank, could be wrong of course.

Ok, so the PSI is how many shots i get. Then whats the CI? The places im looking at have the tanks at either 3000 or 4500 psi, and most common is the 68 and 88 CI. PSI im pretty sure stands for pounds per square inch, so i thought that was the outflow rating (how much pressure is put out from the tank into the gun). Not sure what the CI is though (if it was CC i would guess cubic centimeters, but i wouldnt think it would be cubic inches?).

Thanks again for all the input.

 

[Jones the Paint Magnet]

The pressure put into the gun is usually around 800-850 psi. Most guns run on this, but you can set up some to run on low pressure. Fixed output tanks put air out at this level, more expensive regulators will allow you to adjust.

the 3000/4500 psi bit is the pressure rating of the tank. The higher pressure it can take (and yes, it does stand for pounds per square inch), the more air you can cram into it, as it takes up less volume under higher pressure.

The CI is cubic inch - it's the physical size of the bottle. Obviously a larger bottle at 4500 psi will hold more air than a smaller bottle at 4500 psi!

Confuses me sometimes too!