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New gun teething problems, acceptable for the money??

Dusty

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Seems like a lot of new guns coming out, not just Dye obviously, have teething issues.

I wonder if this is through a lack of field testing and a hurry to get a new product released on time?? Or is it more that they don't test the guns enough in a different range of climates? Is that acceptable on a gun at around or over £1000?

Just a thought......
 

foot

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Seems like a lot of new guns coming out, not just Dye obviously, have teething issues.

I wonder if this is through a lack of field testing and a hurry to get a new product released on time?? Or is it more that they don't test the guns enough in a different range of climates? Is that acceptable on a gun at around or over £1000?

Just a thought......
Good point, but surely they would have done the testing everywhere........wouldnt they?
 

Exile

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Seems like a lot of new guns coming out, not just Dye obviously, have teething issues.
It's not a new thing though - as far back as I can remember, many new guns had "teething" issues when first released, my SAM Patriot needed something swapping out (I forget what) when I first bought it, and this pattern has oft-been repeated - Champagne IR3's certainly had their fair share of lemons.

I think you can test something ad infinitum with your teams/R&D etc., but until it hits real-world testing by actual users, there is always a risk of something cropping up.
It's how the Company reacts to these situations that is important to me.
 

k4p84

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I hazard that most r&d would happen locally so you have good control over exacting specifications during your mock up stages.

Once you have finalised and set your milling script file to china you may end up with different tolerances on the finished product.

Depending on the type of plastic used to make a product it could end up being to fragile, etc.

Mass production at the cheapest cost per unit has it's draw backs I am sure.

As for pure functionality I have often wondered how the climate would effect it.

Maybe markers are like people, they like to be in a warm, dry, low humidity environment to function optimally......

Ed
 
Working properly isnt the number one factor sadly.

If you pay the best players in the world, you can sell a complete brick of a gun, and people will still lap it up.

The follow on from this is that all the money uset to create a product is better spent on marketting and promotion instead of research and development.
 

philfull

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Unless the manufacturers follow the car industry and real world test cars past the usual tollerances there will always be un forseen problems. As long as the company in question update and replace parts for free then it isnt much of a problem to me. Planet and Dye both have top notch customer service and fix these problems as they arise. Unfortunately I have an SP Impulse and have encountered all of the problems assosiated with that gun leaking valve, dodgy feedneck welds etc. It seems the norm for makers to release in esscence unfinished guns to the public to do their beta testing for them. Retrofitting parts found to be faulty is all well and good if you are the original owner but like the rotor has shown updated parts need payed for if you arent the original purchaser of the item.