Markers

[Sean Diamond]

I'm sure all you seasoned pro are sick of us so called 'newbies' harping on about which equipment they want to get when they seem to know hardly anything about what they're talking about. Well you were a newbie once, we all have to be at some time. So for the benefit of people like myself in this position, can u give me as much advice as possible.
The question i put to you is coming from a new player with a budget at max of £200. He plays Rec-ball frequently with the prospect of the odd tournament now and then, so he now wants his own equipment. He has good goggles (JT Flex ize) but is interested in a marker. Now which one do you suggest he chooses?
Pirahna Pro EXT G3 or Pro TS G3
Spyder Aggressor/XTRA/E-99
JT Excellerator 4.0 or 5.0
Black Dragun (various types)
Infernos
Do you think any of these would be a wise choice? Any reviews on these products would be apprecited. Also he needs to know what to run his marker on. CO2 or air or nitrogen, whilst still considering the budget. What are the pro's and cons of each of these? What size should he choose 12,16,20Oz or 48ci,88ci, 3000 or 4500psi. It all is a load of jargon to me.
I know it is a lot, to ask in one post but if i could have a large response to this post, so many of the younger players would be helped. Thank you.
And just remember, you were a newbie once...

 

[Diggie]

Originally posted by Sean Diamond
I'm sure all you seasoned pro are sick of us so called 'newbies' harping on about which equipment they want to get when they seem to know hardly anything about what they're talking about. Well you were a newbie once, we all have to be at some time. So for the benefit of people like myself in this position, can u give me as much advice as possible.

I'll try to the best of my abilities, though I ain't no pro.

The question i put to you is coming from a new player with a budget at max of £200. He plays Rec-ball frequently with the prospect of the odd tournament now and then, so he now wants his own equipment. He has good goggles (JT Flex ize) but is interested in a marker. Now which one do you suggest he chooses?
Pirahna Pro EXT G3 or Pro TS G3
Spyder Aggressor/XTRA/E-99
JT Excellerator 4.0 or 5.0
Black Dragun (various types)
Do you think any of these would be a wise choice? Any reviews on these products would be apprecited.

Not really sure about all guns except the Piranha, which is a very decent marker in its price range. For a good read, check this out: http://www.paintballravi.com/Articles/Blowback_Blowout/Blowback_Blowout.html

and: http://www.paintballravi.com/Articles/BlowbackBlowout2/Blowback_blowout_II.html

All kinds of guns are vigorously tested for your pleasure. Hope it makes the choice easier.

Also he needs to know what to run his marker on. CO2 or air or nitrogen, whilst still considering the budget. What are the pro's and cons of each of these?

A gun running on CO2 can shoot many many more paintballs than a gun on nitrogen (compressed air). The big disadvantage about CO2 is that it's very sensitive to low temperatures. Also, because CO2 is a liquid which is expanded into gaseous form inside the gun, there is the possibility of liquid CO2 entering the marker. Not a nice thing. One way to combat this is to install an anti-syphon tube into the CO2 bottle, so that liquid stays where it should be. Another option is an expansion chamber, which usually is installed as a kind of foregrip on the gun. The expansion chamber allows the CO2 to expand into gas more properly before firing, and is basically a must for everyone running on CO2.

Now, compressed air is what all the big kids use. Why? Because it's bloody well expensive!
Seriously, compressed air is cheaper to get, environmentally friendly but the air systems themselves are more expensive.
Like I said, compressed air gives you far less shots than CO2, but it shoots soo much sweeter. Because of its stability, nitrogen-fed guns have greater shot-to-shot consistency, thus allowing virtually all paintballs out of the gun to reach their maximum range.

What size should he choose 12,16,20Oz or 48ci,88ci, 3000 or 4500psi. It all is a load of jargon to me.

Okay, if you're going for a CO2 system, I can recommend a 20 ounce bottle. Simply because it's bigger, and you don't need to refill CO2 as often every few games.

Compressed air tanks also come in different sizes as you know, but most ballers like to use the 68 Cubic Inch variety, with a pressure of 3000 to 4500 Pounds per Square Inch.

I know it is a lot, to ask in one post but if i could have a large response to this post, so many of the younger players would be helped. Thank you.
And just remember, you were a newbie once...

Oh don't worry about it. A bit of research could have saved you the trouble of posting here, but helping out future paintballers is what should be on all of our minds.

I hope I have been of help.

 

[Jamie]

For starters most people are more then willing to help out other players, so need to have a go.

If you have a max budget of £200 then you wont be getting an air system you will have to go for a C02 my advise would be a 20oz bottle with anti-syphen tube.

As for markers id go for a Spyder, perhaps the aggressor or Xtra.
There are both good guns for the beginner. you have to remember that with £200 you need to get a marker, hopper and co2 tank, you can get gun deals so it may be cheaper to go fo one of those.

Take a look at www.planeteclipse.com or www.warpedsports.com i get a lot of my stuff from them.

And take a look at www.ottersccustoms.com for all the terminology of paintballing it will also give you info on a lot more things to do with paintballing.

Hope it helps

 

[Sean Diamond]

Thanx a lot guys. You paintballers really are a genuine bunch. Keep more comment coming. A few more like that and i'll become a veterean overnight. Thanx again.
Sean.

 

[Solonor]

Piranha-air

Spyder's OK ,but I'd prefer the PMI cause I didn't like the bolt's wearing off. As for the others I never seen any of'em but I wouldn't trust'em-they're quite newer.
Air's better.If you can afford it,it won't let you down.68/88's nice.
Respect
P.S.I'm no pro.

 

[Diggie]

Piranha-air

Originally posted by Solonor
P.S.I'm no pro.

Yeah it's us little people doing all the real work.

 

[rob_evanson]

I would shy away from Spyders, I heard not so good stories about them. When I was looking for new gear I was told the following.

For ease of use and maintaince go for a Inferno, many sites use them because they are basically a work horse of a marker and rarely go down. They are manufacturered in the UK so parts would never be an issue. As for CO2, I agree with everyone else it's got to be 20oz and anti syphon, if paintball markers hate one thing it's LIQUID CO2.

 

[phishballer]

if what you looking for is reviews, then i would check out www.pbreview.com they got some pretty cool information there abd they rate guns and stuff. personally id go with anything piranah because i like their whole no tool strippable pin. and they shoot striaght

 

[Bunker Monkey]

I would highly reccomened the inferno t3 on CO2.
It's eay to maintain, comes with a decent barrell n looks nice and shiny aswell which is always a plus .

 

[Richard Kirke (DUPS Rocket) UK]

Pirahna

Just thought I'd throw my 2cents in here. I have played a fair bit of tourney ball with a stock pirhana, and any gripes aside, they were very reliable.

The main problems I had were breaking of paint (one REALLY bad tourney, and that was probably more to do with the weather and the paint than anything else). Not great acuracy and not that good rate of fire. these can all be fixed by an aggitating hopper (a REALLY good idea) and a decent range of barrels.

Air is something that I would highly recomend if that is what is available at the site you use. If they only use CO2 then there isn't much point getting a High Pressure Air system.

When doing budgeting don't forget that you need hopper (recomend an aggitating one such as the reVoLution), other barrels, gas system (of what-ever kind) on top of your marker.

Another thing not to forget is the second hand market, which will alow you to pick up ready upgraded etc kit cheaper.

Good luck findinr the right kit

Richard (Actualy a pro... in his dreams anyway)