Marker/equipment advice needed for Noob

[superbully]

OK - these are the markers I'm intersted in.
Has anyone had any experience with these (good or bad) ones?

JT 5.0
JT 6.0
Tippman A-5
Autococker 2001/2002/2003
Spyder Shutter

I was thinking of getting one of these above models. But I don't know what hoppers should go with what gun, eg electric hopper. For example I've heard that the tippman doesn't really need an electric hopper as it has this new cyclone thingy in it, whereas the JT 5.0 really benefits from an electric hopper.
And gas/air - now i start getting really lost. If i go Co2 do i need alot of extra bits to stop liquid Co2 coming out, and more bits to keep the pressure equal?? Is high pressure alot better than Co2 regarding the freezing probs and liquid coming out? I suppose it's alot more expensive though?
And when it comes to Barrels then i'm totally lost to which one I should replace the stock one with!! I would class myself as a rec player at the moment with no tourny ambitions if that helps you in advice on barrels. Is longer better than shorter? What should I look out for when choosing an aftermarket barrel?
Thanks for your feedback peeps !

 

[Parksy]

Oh dear me, a hell of a lot of questions here

First off with you not knowing too much (no offence intended) you want something that is low maintainance... Tippmanns are renowned for being uber reliable, and I've heard nothing but good things on the A5. If you went for one of these it would eliminate the need to buy a hopper cause it has one built in...

All of the others I would probably reccomend you get an aggitating hopper, something like a 12v revy, just to help feed the paint quicker and reduce choping paint

As for Air vs C02... not to over complicate things.... CO2 is cheap, just get a 20 oz with an anti siphon and on/off, about £40/£50ish... Air is better but a lot more ££££££.... normally money is your master when you decide what to get

Hope that helps... could write more, but it would become a novel with questions like that

Dave

 

[IanC]

Starter Gun

Hello again noob! I'll Keep this one short!

CO2 is what everyone starts with really. If you get an anti-syphon bottle and a gun with a regulator on it, you'll do alright.
Just fill your tanks early so they warm up a bit!!

Gun wise i'd say the excellerators are a good choice, go for the six
as it has a reg. as standard.
Make sure you get the upgraded bolt otherwise they chop paint big time.

Cockers are great guns, but a little complex for a first gun.

Leave the spiders alone. They have non-standard fittings, mass produced, nasty, nasty, nasty!!

Ian

(okay I failed to keep it short, sorry!)

 

[evil sharks matt]

mate id go for the shutter. I hear bad things about those Excellerators, i have used both and although the jts are elecy the shutter is both easy to maintain and reliable.
As for barrels theres loads to choose from going up and above £100.
I would reccomend getting a aftermarket barrel (they do help) but go for a smart parts tear drop or prog they are great barrels and wont really break the bank.

hope this helps

 

[loply]

Regarding barrels, something like a SmartParts TearDrop or All American 2001 (not 2002) will cost you about $45, $50, and will perform really well.

Longer is not better than shorter. Too short is bad, too long is bad. 12" is right in the middle. 14" you may find is easier to aim cus its longer but its a bit clumbsier. 16" is getting "too long" for most people and is a bit unwiedly.

If I were you Id go for a 12" TearDrop or something... Safe bet.

 

[dr.strangelove]

Whatever you do DO NOT buy a shutter (should be spelled with an I instead of a U). They SUCK. A friend of mine had one, the trigger pull is long, the seals are cheap and weak, the micro line leaked constantly, they are crap. I've never used an excellerator, but I would go for something else (because the excellerator is one of those new mass-produced electro markers that eats batteries and eventually breaks down because all it does it use a sear tripper to fire the marker and I've hear that the solenoids they use don't hold up after time) Since you probably didn't get any of that, I've never used one, but I've heard they break down and chop paint. The autococker is not a newbie marker, it's very complex and intimidating to a new player, don't get one of those. I guess that only leaves you with the A5. I haven't actually played with one, but I've seen 'em around. The cyclone feed will eliminate the need for an electronic hopper, they're easy to maintain, and Tippmanns are known for their unbelievable reliablity. Out of all the markers you listed, that'd be the one I'd go for.

As for barrels, longer is not better. Accuracy and efficiency will actually decrease if you get a barrel that's too long. I'm going to break new ground and recommend the Dye Excel. They're very nice, dye has a reputation for great barrels. I've seen alot of these, they seem very accurate and quiet. A 14" would be a good choice, 14" is a versatile lenght, not too long, yet not so short that it's loud or inaccurate. The Excel sells for about $40, which makes it an economical upgrade. However, I'm not sure if they make an Excel for the A5, if you can't find one the Smart Parts line is very good, and the progressive and the teardrop will only run you about $45.

Compressed air is far more consistent and much less volatile than CO2. It's the best upgrade you could ever make. But it costs alot. For a tank big enough to provide you with enough shots for a day (without filling), you're looking at probably $200. CO2 will be alot cheaper at first, a 20 oz. tank will provide you with about 750-800 shots and only costs about $30. But you'll probably want to buy one with an anti-siphon tube. An anti-siphon tube prevents liquid CO2 from leaving the tank, and they work well. A 20 oz. with anti-siphon tube will run you about $45-50, which is still about 1/4 the cost of air, so to start out with, CO2 will probably be fine for you. Tippmanns don't usually have much trouble with CO2 anyway.

Hope you find the marker for you, good luck.

 

[evil sharks matt]

i have actually used a shutter and it was fine. Also you should maybe have a look at infernos, there great durable markers. If you wanted to spend a little more maybe go for a Impulse they are pretty cheap rock like hell and can be upgraded loads. However going for this gun requires a little more know how and maintanace but trust me you can soon pick up how to do it.

 

[Mario]

A-5's are great guns but they use CO2 up quickly. that's the only bad thing.

 

[Silentbob]

Must admit

Infernos are excellent markers, cheap as chipc, and with a bit of fettling, can be quite effective on the field.

I would, however say this........

I wasted a bucket load of cash buying a tippy about 2 years ago, then I got a 2000 Eclipse Shocker for the same price (secondhand) which is 10 times the marker of any of your choices. I would suggest a good used marker (Imp, Shocker, etc) as opposed to a new entry level marker.

http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14788 << This will cost you less than setting up a new A5, and will give you a lot more firepower/accuracy than any of the new kit.

(Just an example, I am not saying rush out and buy this particular marker, just have a look about)

 

[evil sharks matt]

the only prob with getting a shocker is youll get into high end guns really fast and soon realise that you want an imp or summit and youll have nothing but trouble selling the shocker. Dont get me wrong they are great markers but there desirability has somewhat dropped