What would be a better 2nd gun..a vertical feed cocker...or an automag classic(with or without power feed)
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mag or cocker
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Do you mean 2nd gun as a back up or as a replacement to your current marker.
If as a backup I would reccomend the mag - bascially they are easier to maintain and cockers are quite prone to going wrong, if not used much.
As an upgrade, either, though the cocker would have more options for upgrades, theres god knows how many addons for them. But the mag would be as good as your gonna get stock, though there are some upgrades, ELCD frames, superbolt etc. If you do get a mag get the powerfeed, mags have a blow back problem which the powerfeed solves, usually costs a bit extra new but its worth it. Also cocker barrels are much easier to find 2nd hand and are cheaper first hand than mag barrels.
If as a backup I would reccomend the mag - bascially they are easier to maintain and cockers are quite prone to going wrong, if not used much.
As an upgrade, either, though the cocker would have more options for upgrades, theres god knows how many addons for them. But the mag would be as good as your gonna get stock, though there are some upgrades, ELCD frames, superbolt etc. If you do get a mag get the powerfeed, mags have a blow back problem which the powerfeed solves, usually costs a bit extra new but its worth it. Also cocker barrels are much easier to find 2nd hand and are cheaper first hand than mag barrels.
Wots ure main gun?
Wot do u feel is the 3 most important things u want from the second gun?
Reliable?
Easy to use?
Fast?
Small?
cheap?
As close in feel & how it shoots to ur main gun? (over looked greatly by people!) ,so u can feel confident etc cos it feels like ur tryin to get use to a new/old gun (if u know wot i mean).
Wot do u feel is the 3 most important things u want from the second gun?
Reliable?
Easy to use?
Fast?
Small?
cheap?
As close in feel & how it shoots to ur main gun? (over looked greatly by people!) ,so u can feel confident etc cos it feels like ur tryin to get use to a new/old gun (if u know wot i mean).
I recommend avoiding any Mag other than the Emag. The resale value on Mags is totally crap, their weight distribution is horrible, barrels are harder to come by in the used market, and they rely too heavily on seals. Now some say the Cocker is good because of upgradability. That is a terrible way of putting it, because looking at it from the point of view of "I can buy all this stuff for it" is like saying "Hey, I'm going to invite myself into spending ridiculous amounts of money and screw up my gun repeatedly so that I can pay techs hundreds of bucks to fix it while looking like a total moron with more money than sense that shop owners will lure back over and over again with shiny bits of chrome." The realistic way of going about things is to state that every aspect of it has been well researched and improved to its optimum and that it can be built to user specifications. You do it once and ideally you're done, and keep it practical. You don't want to join the legion of idiots out there that go through every single new part out there just to have the trendiest, newest made Cocker that honestly don't have the first f$@#ing clue how it's going to shoot one day from the next.
Simply put, the Cocker is the way to go if you just don't do anything stupid. Go for one set of parts, a couple of barrels (OK, I collect them.) that work, a good trigger/frame/3way combination, an outstandingly vert reg (Your velocity control!), properly sprung valve....THEN LEAVE THE THING ALONE TO DO ITS JOB. TOUCH NOTHING BUT THE FACE OF THE TRIGGER WITH YOUR TRIGGER FINGER AND OCCASIONALLY OIL IT.
Simply put, the Cocker is the way to go if you just don't do anything stupid. Go for one set of parts, a couple of barrels (OK, I collect them.) that work, a good trigger/frame/3way combination, an outstandingly vert reg (Your velocity control!), properly sprung valve....THEN LEAVE THE THING ALONE TO DO ITS JOB. TOUCH NOTHING BUT THE FACE OF THE TRIGGER WITH YOUR TRIGGER FINGER AND OCCASIONALLY OIL IT.
ciaran i am disgusted with ur accusation against the cocker, my cocker is lovely jubly and it hasnt gon wrong at all, and i hardly use it,
i would recomend the cocker, as it has more upgrades, performs better, and overalls beats the mag from here to kantucky,
, my cocker is lovely jubly and it hasnt gon wrong at all, and i hardly use it,i would recomend the cocker, as it has more upgrades, performs better, and overalls beats the mag from here to kantucky,
Sorry - I should have said cockers are prone to going cockeyed if you start to change things, and don't know how "time" them once the new part is added or you've made your modification .
Mags do run on seals, but im sure theres just as many in a cocker, with all those pneumatics and 4-ways and all sorts. Sorry im just a MagMan, had my mag for a while havnt had any trouble with it.
Mags do run on seals, but im sure theres just as many in a cocker, with all those pneumatics and 4-ways and all sorts. Sorry im just a MagMan, had my mag for a while havnt had any trouble with it.
I sort of agree with killer onion, Mag barrels can be hard to find, they do rely on a lot of seals and their resale value can be crap, but for a relaible backup the Mag has to be the best. If something goes wrong it's always the seal and the parts kit's are always easy to get hold of. Cockers are alright but like it's been said before if you bugger about with it your stuffed.
Well, the barrel issue could be somewhat resolved by buying a Cocker and something that takes Cocker barrels, like say an Evo X and a Matrix, Excaliber, or Defiant.