LA scheduling?

[Baca Loco]

Been looking over the 10-man schedule and it seems a bit shaky to me. So far I haven't found a Pro playing a Pro in the prelims and the Ams are all over the place. Looks like most Ams play 2 pros and 2 ams (tho seen a couple 1 pro/3 ams) yet Evil plays no pros. Wasted enough time already and I ain't gonna look at Novs/Rooks schedules but does anybody know who set this up?

No ulterior motive but somebody posted Dynasty's schedule (3 ams/5 novs) [Naughty Dogs 2 ams/6 novs] elsewhere and made me curious enough to check some more teams.

 

[Lalor]

Thats not the complete schedule that your seeing.

It's pretty normal to see Novice playing Pro's. With the down set and spread out division of Pro, I would imagine the slack of those pro teams playing AM's will happen.

However, maybe we're just seeing the one sided portion of the schedule. There are still days to be played and schedules to be posted.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Lalor
Thats not the complete schedule that your seeing.

It's pretty normal to see Novice playing Pro's. With the down set and spread out division of Pro, I would imagine the slack of those pro teams playing AM's will happen.

However, maybe we're just seeing the one sided portion of the schedule. There are still days to be played and schedules to be posted.

Yes, it is. Dynasty and Naughty Dogs play no Pros in the prelims. May be the Pros play no Pros period in the prelims.

As to the Ams I'm not suggesting they are only playing 4 games. I am saying that of their 8 prelim games Evil plays NO pros while most of the other Ams are playing 2 pros in their 8 games.
Evil--Pro (0) Am (3) Nov (3) Rook (2)
Maxim--Pro (1) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (2)
KAPP--Pro (2) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (1)
Static--Pro (2) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (1)
Cartel--Pro (1) Am (3) Nov (2) Rook (2)
Robinhood--Pro (2) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (1)
Fatal Swoop--Pro (2) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (1)

 

[JTHM]

Whoa, if that's how the new schedule software sets the teams, then I'd say it could use some more tweaking.

I feel bad for Robinhood and Fatal Swoop, I mean these guys just moved up from novice to take on the AM bracket and they draw 2 Pro teams while others get only one Pro or 'None' (like Evil) ?

I'm not saying they should get a lighter draw because they're new to the AM division.......just some equal parity would have been a bit more fair to them.

 

[Beaker]

Has the so called "Chicago" scheduling system EVER been fully explained.

The Millennium use it to and while I'm sure it's all above board, unless it's given out to the teams that can see how this is arrived at makes it all a bit cloak and dagger.

Every time this response has been "it's too complicated" which frankly I think is out of order as I'm sure there is more than one person on this planet which can understand it

 

[TJ Lambini]

Tha Chicago scheduling is rubbish - I use tha Supertramp model or, failing, that Cheap Trick. If you're gonna use classic rock as tha basis for tournament organization, never, ever use Chicago or Toto. First rule of tournament promotion.

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Beaker
Has the so called "Chicago" scheduling system EVER been fully explained.

Every time this response has been "it's too complicated" which frankly I think is out of order as I'm sure there is more than one person on this planet which can understand it

Yes....

At Portugal last year I sat down with Jerry and he explained it to me...

Phew! Complex it sounds and is, but it follows some basic relationships...

Only trouble is remembering what the relationships are and how they relate to the numbers of teams in pro and novice...

To be honest I can't remember it now. And it did take some explaining at the time for me to get it. But at the time I eventually clicked and thought it made sense

Beard is the one to ask over here as he's a maths (physics?) person and is I believe in charge of it over here and for the Millennium events.

 

[Beaker]

Yeah, but AFAIK it's never been published so any old joe (Baca - I'm not calling you a Joe ) can check things.

The scheduling should be part of the rules and clearly stated (however complicated), not something that exists outside of it.

 

[shamu]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Tha Chicago scheduling is rubbish - I use tha Supertramp model or, failing, that Cheap Trick. If you're gonna use classic rock as tha basis for tournament organization, never, ever use Chicago or Toto. First rule of tournament promotion.

Just be glad they didn't use Disco for the basis. Can you imagine what the Village People schedule would have looked like???

Originally posted by Baca Loco
Evil--Pro (0) Am (3) Nov (3) Rook (2)
Maxim--Pro (1) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (2)
KAPP--Pro (2) Am (2) Nov (3) Rook (1)
Cartel--Pro (1) Am (3) Nov (2) Rook (2)

Well, if the levels are weighted as such:
Pro = 4
am = 3
Nov = 2
Rook = 1

Then you can estimate the relative difficulty of each teams schedule like so:
Evil - 0 + 9 + 6 + 2 = 17
Maxim - 4 + 6 + 6 + 2 = 18
Kapp - 8 +6 + 6 + 1 = 21
Cartel - 4 + 9 + 4 + 2= 19

Of course, this doesn't take into account the ranking of the specific teams. For example, having Dynasty for your pro team would be more difficult than having Wone Concepts.

(edited to add a real comment to the flippant remark )

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Beaker
Yeah, but AFAIK it's never been published so any old joe (Baca - I'm not calling you a Joe ) can check things.

The scheduling should be part of the rules and clearly stated (however complicated), not something that exists outside of it.

But by omission you're calling me old! Just 'cus it's true . . .

Quite right, if the scheduling is public knowledge everyone knows everything is completely above board regardless of the result. Btw, I'm not suggesting anything is questionable in this case other than the result but disclosure assures the integrity of the process.