i would go with a tippy...i have one as a back up to my angel and it performs pretty good. i have it decked out with rt, a revy and a lapco bigshot right now but i hope to add more someday. its very upgradeable and is very, very durable/reliable...plus they dont have as many problems as spyders (i dont know about anyone else..but every spyder or spyder clone i have any experience with has had a number of different problems..anything from problems with chronoing under 300, to leaking, to freezingup...idk about u guys though)