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Ion eyes problem

SmokeDog

Mean Machine Inc
Sorry if this has been posted before, but I have searched and haven't found anything.

Been having some probs with the eyes on my Ion recently always reporting a ball in the breech... So I stripped it and cleaned the eyes, no dice. Even when I unplug the eyes, it still reports as if the eyes were attached and the beam is being broken.

Soo.... I replaced the wire that connects the C-board to the main board, same thing. So I ordered some new eyes from the internet (Lucky ones) and when I got it through I find I still have the same problem... The lucky eyes are lighting up on one side (which I assume is normal) so I can see there is at least power getting to them... So I was still having the same problem, which makes me think it's the main trigger/solenoid board.

Soo... I used a friend's spare Lucky stage 4 Spitfire board and plugged it in with the new eyes and wire... and to my disbelief the LED on the new board is green when I switch on (indicating a ball in the breech) and then turns yellow when I press the trigger (which i think indicates an eye error of some kind accoring to the manual).

I have checked the new wire with a multimeter and it seems that all 4 links are working and not broken.

I have also replaced the battery with a new one (energizer ultra), and yes the gap in my breech is free from paint/obstructions. The same thing happens when the eyes aren't even in the gun itself.

Now of course there is something very strange when a problem persists even when you have replaced all of the possible offending parts, so now I am a bit stuck what to do. I am not so familiar with this Lucky board with spitfire software so not sure what else can be the issue (one thing is when the eyes are switched off - LED = blue - it flashes white every now and again, but the manual doesn't say what that means...)

I was wondering whether anyone has any ideas of what I can try, apart from buying yet another set of eyes? :confused:

Thanks in advance! :rolleyes:
 

SmokeDog

Mean Machine Inc
Hi Cliff,

Thanks for the reply, but that is a dwell vs. ROF cheat sheet, not sure how that is meant to help me. The Ion has no problems firing when I switch the eyes off, and I am fine with limiting it as I now have a Lucky board.

That cheat sheet applies to the stock board I beleive and doesn't really say anything about eyes/vision issues.

Sorry if I missed something!
 

SmokeDog

Mean Machine Inc
Cheers.

Oh yeah and I forgot to mention, I have checked the pins inside both ends of the baords and none of them are bent, and I can't see any damage on them.

Just thought I'd mention that as of course that is a valid reason for my problems!
 

CAMDENELECTRIC

KU Nemesis
Jun 4, 2007
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Newcastle Under-Lyme
This really is an odd one... When you take the body kit off and then the yes out is the hole the eyes sit in completely free of absolutely anything that could affect the eyes? It is really wierd that the problem has persisted with a different board. Try the board and lucky eyes and all your internals in a new Ion breach assembly (i.e. A friends) and see if it works then. It could always be a possibility that it is to do with the machining from the factory when they milled the holes for the eyes in the breach....
Have you rang SP?
James
 

SmokeDog

Mean Machine Inc
Yeah It's absolutely clear, and I know that it isn't to do with that because I have tried it with the eyes completely outside the breech too. I know this should work because when my eyes USED to work (i.e. a few weeks ago) I could 'activate' the break beam outside the breech by just putting my finger between the emitter and detector and it worked fine.

At the end of the day I know there must still be a problem with either the board, wire or eye circuit, so I guess I'll have to try to borrow a friend's eye board that I know is working, and try to work out what is going on.

I haven't called SP, but as there are no SP parts involved any more (apart from the breech) I am not sure whether they will be able to help.

I'll try what you suggested, and I'll post up here when I find out what was causing it.

Thanks for the suggestions.