HPA laws

[Revolt]

silly father seems to think that a high pressure air tank has to be empty at all times when not in use, i know fine well this is bull crap, ie, going to a dive shop, get your dive tank filled, and have to empty it before you leave, aye very good dad you thick w4nk shaft....... so aye i know its crap. any health and safety laws that can actually prove it tho ?

 

[Rosie]

Not that I know of- tho I have heard that carrying a tank with hpa in voids your car insurance, this true??

 

[Revolt]

yer id imagine so... and your not allowed on planes with them unless there fully drained... but apart from that someone is talking out there arse

 

[Rosie]

Well if it's true how does he suggest people go diving?? They don't always carry huge air compressors with them.

I don't know where he's got that from but it's wrong.

 

[Magic_8ball]

Hmm I think he's wrong about the complete void on insurance, but I think you ARE supposed to have one of those stickers on your window saying "Compressed Gas onboard" or whatever they say. I presume thats for emergency services so if theyre pulling you out of an RTA they know theres the risk of exploding cylinders etc...

If you're going on a plane you have to drain ur air system and take the reg off and keep it separate to the bottle I think, something like that anyway

You dont have to drain your air system when not in use, I leave mine filled between tournies and training just in case I fancy going out in my back garden and practicing my accuracy or whatever

Hope that helps

 

[Liz]

Give Steve Bull from the UKPSF a call (Bully on these forums), he should be able to put tour dad's mind at rest. And I'm not sure, but he should be able to point you in the direction of the "compressed air" stickers for the car.

 

[Demonic69]

Unless you tell your car insurance, and they can blame the tank for an accident, it can invalidate your policy as it's not something an "average" person would carry in their car. But that goes for a lot of things you could carry and they have to be able to scientifically prove that the tank was a factor in the accident or any damage caused.
Health and safety sheets for dive cylinders does advise that you store them empty, sure I've read the same for our tanks, but it's only advice covering the manufacturers areses so they don't get sued by silly yanks

 

[Raffles]

JFYI - BOC sell the green diamonds (no-flammable compressed gas).

 

[Steve Hancock]

I was taught that diving tanks shouldn't be completely emptied unless necessary (e.g. flying). The seal relies on there being a greater internal pressure. If you completely empty it moisture can get past the seal, which can cause rust and potentially tank failure.

This is probably more of an issue with submersible tanks though, like if you're playing mardi gras.

 

[Raffles]

...like if you're playing mardi gras.

...or in Manchester