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hayden

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Hi all i singed up a week ago with the intentions of doing this straight away but got ill.
so tonight i started looking at what iv bought if you can tell we whats what then please do
first up i think there both smart part xe but not sure now
theres this one


and in side it are these


then this one i haven't taken apart yet


he also gave me these bit and said they where upgrades but i have no clue




any info is appreciated
Hayden
 

Narkadox

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Green/Silver one looks like an Ion that's had an XE conversion kit installed (judging by the XE converison kit box), as well as a (very tall) clamping feedneck and a drop forward with on off asa.

Blue one looks like a standard Ion with a new trigger, locking feedneck and drop forward/asa.

First bolt is a Deadly Wind Hollow Point I believe and should fit in the green Ion.

Not 100% on the blue bolt but I think it's a Shock-Tech bolt and will fit in the blue Ion.

I'd also take a guess and say that there's a Black Heart board in one of them too seeing how there's a box and a manual.

They look in good condition. Either very well looked after or rarely used. I'd get rid of those drop forwards though if it was me.

Did the air tanks come with them too?
 
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hayden

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yes you are right the first dose have the black heart board in.
so do you think that the gray bolt with gold peace will replace the bits in the second pic and would that be a upgrade?
yes the bottles came with them one carbon fiber both out of test but i have a dive school near me so should be able to get them tested
i do have more bits to post pics of, ill do it shortly as i have no clue yet what everything is.
I'm learning fast with the help of people like you and the search function on the forum
Thanks Narkadox
 
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Narkadox

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Yes the Hollow Point bolt should fit into the green Ion fine.

The Loaders are old ViewLoader Evolution's, nicknamed "Egg's". Some people love them, some hate them. So long as they work they're fine loaders.

Barrel's are an Evil Pipe Kit, what looks like a Smart Parts tactical barrel and two piece Smart Parts All American barrel. Do they all fit the Ion? If they do then they're all Smart Parts/GOG/Ion/Impulse threaded.

I'm not sure what the last picture is. The Silver/Green parts look like they might be inserts from another marker similar to an the Ion callen an Epiphany.

The black part looks like maybe a barrel thread adapter. Does it screw into the Ion? Or do any of the barrels you have screw into it?
 
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hayden

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Yes all the barrel's fit the Ion and yes the thread adapter dose screw straight in to Ion but not sure what the other thread is tho
 
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hayden

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I went looking after what Narkadox said and if you watch this video of a Epiphany dis-assembly at the 3:03 you can see them
i think he is right.
i think the man and wife i bought these off had a son in to paintball also, im now guessing he had a Epiphany
edit:Unless the second gun is a Epiphany ill find out when i strip it.

 
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Tom

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Nice little setup.
The above posts cover most of it.
The Ion / Ion XE / Epiphany are the evolution of the Ion under Smart Parts.
Gog are the new name for Smart Parts in the US, but they are still Smart Parts here.

The 'pipe' barrel kit allows you to select the optimal back to match the paint you are using whenever you play, thus giving consistency etc

The 'drop forwards' on each are a bit old school and have gone out of favour, but they adjust the relative position of the cylinder giving balance and adjusting the layout for ergonomics. These went out of favour, but some people are playing with them again. In general these days people adjust positioning using a 'kick up' and/or an adjustable rail mount ASA, or just one of the variety of cylinder shapes and sizes now available.

In the final photo the inserts look right for the epiphany, but the black piece does look more like a barrel adaptor. The back should be threaded to fit the guns, and have internal threading on the opposite side to accept a different type of barrel.
Autococker / smart parts would sound like a valid adaptor as 'autococker thread' is another very common barrel thread. Many paintballers who have owned a number of guns will have acquired cocker threaded barrels

With the cylinders consider the viability of testing against remaining life.
The standard time between tests is 5 years, (but can vary in some old designs) the steelie (though may be aluminium) can be use forever, but would have to be tested every 5 years, the fibre cylinder will have a maximum 15 year life and will be marked with a final date.
New cylinders cost about £150 for a fibre cylinder and about £30/£40 for steel/aluminium
Depending on the cost you can get tests locally (and the remaining life of the fibre cylinder) will be the deciding factor on testing.

Test fees can generally be about £25, but possibly as cheap as £15 or expensive as £40. The higher cost is usual if you are sending it away
If you can get a test at about £15 then it can be worth testing the steel/aluminium but if it is more then you could just as well buy a new one

For a rough valuation / viability of the fibre cylinder consider its total life cost £200
(£150 new price + 2 x £25 tests)
Divide by 15, multiply by the remaining years to its final date
Deduct the number of remaining tests (£25 or £50)
That gives you a depreciation assessment.

Or if you say its worth about £13 per year then if the fibre has more then 2 years remaining life then it's worth spending £25 on a test

(Adjust as required based on local quoted test fees)
 
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