Help please!! - Air Bottle BS / EN standards

[Marcus Geezer]

Gents,

After a bit of help.

Recently purchased a Pure Energy (PMI) 3000psi 0.8l air system. Yeah yeah I know it aint the biggest or the lightest but I'm just starting out and can't spend all my money pending a divorce.

In good faith I took it down the local dive centre for a fill, and the gentleman stated he can't really fill it as it doesnt have a BS number on it or a CE mark.

Part of my job is a Health & Safety Auditor for electrical switchgear on Military bases, so I like to think I know a thing or two about standards and legislation, and could see that it has an EN number, but I am damned if I can find a CE mark on it. I wasn't gonna argue with the guy as he filled it anyway as a favour, but I'm just a little concerned at the moment.

Can someone help me clarify that the bottle I have is not gonna cause me any problems with obtaining air fills on and off paintball sites.

The detail on the bottle reads thus (as best as I can make out);

13E USA P F000110 AA6061
6.46MM 1.23kg .72L PW207 PH311BAR
(??) EN 1975 GB (triangle?) 1266 2006/03

I'm guessing the top line is the USA standards.
The middle line is just the size, etc, of the bottle.
And the bottom line is the GB standard. Where EN 1975 is the standard for Transportable gas cylinders - Specifications for the design and construction of refillable transportable seamless aluminium and aluminium alloy gas cylinders of capacity from 0.5 litres up to 150 litres

So this bottle has been designed to a relevant European standard, but it doesnt seem to be the standard quoted when I look on the legislation regarding air bottles for paintball.

Can someone help me please?

Ta. Marcus.

 

[lemonadeX]

*Looks at his own 0.8l 3000psi tank*

Mine has the 3 lines exactly the same as yours, and it has no CE mark either. I wouldnt worry about it - Just get a bottle cover so they dont inspect all that

Any site will fill it just the same.

-Will

 

[Marcus Geezer]

Blimey...

Good thing I'm not a HSE representitive isnt it!!

Point noted... maybe I'm over concerning myself with this?

Still, would rather have some details re: the standards and stuff though.... at the very least so I can put the guy at the scuba centre right...

Thanks Lemonade X (again)...

 

[Marcus Geezer]

Comments

Has anyone else got any comments about this?

 

[onasilverbike]

Has anyone else got any comments about this?

There used to be a big thread in here on the subject of bottles, but its gone

However, if you look at my post in this thread I have cut and pasted some of the info just can't be bov'd to do it again

http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=66403

As pi (the symbol) is the standard mark, that maybe what your triangle is, I have the same bottle, though its nowhere close to hand, its a very good backup, or loaner, and from what I remember the stampings are not very clear but I never had any problem getting it filled at any sites.

Hope that helps.

 

[Shylad]

This might help:

http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28216

Simon

 

[Marcus Geezer]

Not straightforward.. or is it!?!?!?!?

Thanks for your responses guys....

Ok.. the indeterminate mark I now recognise as PI.

It was actually this Uber Tech sticky thread that got me worried in the first place cos it talks about particular BS and EN standards which don't seem to be on my bottle, but... if all that sites require to fill a bottle is, for it to be in test, and for it to have the PI symbol, then I'm a happy camper.

Sorry if over-reacting, being in part a Health & Saftey auditor, you tend to home and analyse these kind of things.

(Need to relax by taking deep breaths and shooting paint at inanimate objects )

 

[lemonadeX]

...Or animate objects...

 

[Marcus Geezer]

cows.....

Hmm... animate objects....

How much trouble would I get into for painting the cows at the end of my garden, the same ******* cows who eat all my sunflowers, tomato plants, and my newly planted hazelnut tree?

Can't shoot the dog. He'll bite me thank you very much.

Think I'll stick to the other half's pride and joy... her garden gnome that looks like a rather odd Father Christmas.... it's a bit yellow at the moment to say the least....

 

[Rabies]

If your local dive shop doesn't recognise the current European standard for air tanks, I'd question his competence to fill them commercially (and I suspect his insurer would too, in the case of an accident.)

EN1975 is the correct current standard for aluminium cylinders (superceding BS5043 Part 3); most paintball tanks these days are fibre-wrapped so are covered by EN12245 (which supercedes HSE-AL-FW2.)