ah dave so it is your brother , lol u mean boy , ye i would get a secnd hand impy or coker i had a spyder clone i got bored of it so i got my self a nice second hand impy was a gr8 marker, and now im shooting my lovely angel lcd fly , well all the best chris hope we bean help to u but we have all sed the same thing lol , chris you looking to get in to woodl and or tourny , spyder would be kool for wood land but a impy or coker for tourny or a more up market marker , but well , si