ok...i have been to the fields numerous times and its time to get my own gear. im sure there are some tipman lovers out there but, i still have to say something. i dont want to get a tippman for a starter gun because i have yet to have one good experience with there rental field guns. i want t o get a spyder shutter, tl, or a 2000. i want something easy to upgrade and that will last a good year or two. let me know what you all think.