Eclipse Impy trigger problems

[Azz3h]

Hi, just bought a 2nd hand eclipse impy (blade trigger).

However... there doesn't seem to be any magnet or spring in it so the only return force is the microswitch! What should there be (if anything?) and how do I fix it?

It also has a lot of side to side and up and down play..

It's the top one here:
http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47931

Any advice please?

 

[danrandon]

Right there should be a fairly large spring in the grip frame but you have to know where to find it.

remove grip frame from the impy

remove board and battery from the frame.

you should see a large phillips screw.

remove this.

you should now be able to see the large trigger adjustment allen grub screw, below this is the spring.

hope this helps

dan

 

[Nickyboy]

Do as above and take the board and battery off, and in the top of the trigger there should be two grub screws.

The one nearest the back of your gun is the one you need to take out to check if your missing anything. Unscrew it and depending on whether you have a a magno or just a blade, there should be a spring with a magnet inside it. Compress / Stretch out the spring to you desired effect.

Getting a new magnet is another matter though buddy.

 

[DarrenS]

If it still has an original frame then it will have a spring, as said above you need to remove the frame and board to get to it.

 

[Azz3h]

Have got the trigger frame off - looking from above. Looking at where the trigger pushes upwards there is the screw that determines the fire point, behind that is a hole (where the spring is meant to go I assume) but it seems to be smooth as if it has been drilled out?! At the very bottom off this (below the trigger seems to be a screw that goes directly behind the trigger and is what the post travel screw hits.

What is wrong?!

Also, looking sideways on there are 2 holes above the trigger, one has a metal pin in (to hold the trigger in?) but the other one is empty - should this have a pin in to prevent the excess sloppyness on the trigger?

Cheers,

 

[DarrenS]

originally there was 2 pins but you may have a newer trigger.

it also sounds like the frame has been modded to remove the threads, i dunno why though.

post up a pic from the top of the frame looking down where the adjuster should be.

 

[Azz3h]

Ok will do in a few mins

I've worked out that the slack issue is due to 2 grub screws missing that screw into the trigger up against the pivot pin (the 1 that is through the grip) to stop it moving around.

Anyone know where I can get the grub screws from? they only need to be a few mm long.

 

[Azz3h]

I can't get a decent picture because my cam is too low res

Basically yes, it looks like the thread has been drilled out all the way through until it comes out just behind the trigger, and then someone has put a bolt down so it sits behind the trigger as something for the stop to hit.

I would get a new frame but this is annoed to match the gun.. and would just drop a biro spring down the hole to provide pressure but there is nothing for it to press against bar the circuit board. Do you think I should do this and then solder/glue a piece of metal below the circuit board for the spring to press against?

Cheers,

 

[Nickyboy]

Originally posted by Azz3h
Have got the trigger frame off - looking from above. Looking at where the trigger pushes upwards there is the screw that determines the fire point, behind that is a hole (where the spring is meant to go I assume) but it seems to be smooth as if it has been drilled out?! At the very bottom off this (below the trigger seems to be a screw that goes directly behind the trigger and is what the post travel screw hits.

What is wrong?!

Also, looking sideways on there are 2 holes above the trigger, one has a metal pin in (to hold the trigger in?) but the other one is empty - should this have a pin in to prevent the excess sloppyness on the trigger?

Cheers,

I did know but you've well confused me.

Looking from above you should have two grub screws coming towards you. Once decides your rest point other decides how far you press into the micro switch.

Under one there should be a spring and a magnet, providing you have a "Magno Blade Trigger", like you stated rightly above. It does have a bit of a gap that seems "drilled" that’s the place for the sping/magnet combo, and then on top of that you screw the grub screw in to determine spring stiffness. Us a trimmed pen spring if you don't have one.

That’s about the size of whats wrong, unless I'm not reading properly.
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As for the pivot points, only 1 needs to have anything in it. You might be able to put another bar in there, I can't quite remember, but I wouldn't bother. You can't get as many interesting positions/movement, or one you might like with a 2nd pivit in.

The sloppiness is probably a bent trigger unfortunatly. With wear and tear they become loose and jangly, and unfortunatly there isn't many ways to really sort this out. Finding a minuture washer to slide in, doesn't actually work and you best off borrowing a friends trigger to make sure it's the trigger and not the circuit tray that’s bent and is causing the slopiness.

 

[Azz3h]

Yes you've got it right, but the place for the spring/magnet combo has no thread at the top to screw a grub screw into to: a) hold the spring in place and b) adjust spring strength...?