difference between something like a impulse and autococker

[joeyarmstrong]

hey guys,
i been looking for a new marker to bug my parents about since its my bday comming up. looking at an impulse but than saw some nice looking autocokers. i was looking at some of the price diffrences and just woundering what are the main diaffrences between an impulse and a autococker. i know autocockers are abit more mechanical and fiddly.

thanks guys!!!!

 

[H]

OK, I'll keep this nice, short and simple.

An Impulse is a open bolt electronic marker like most these days. This means that on pulling the trigger an electric signal is sent to the circuity which then through various doo-dahs makes the bolt move forward and sent a jet of air to launch the ball out of the barrel. The bolt then moves back, open for another paintball to fall into the breach and it is ready to fire again. Impulses are rather simple beasts, nothing too complex but they do operate at a low pressure which can make them gas hungry and susceptible to blowing up if you are a fool like me.

The Autococker is a closed bolt mechanical marker that has been around since the dawn of time. There's no need explaining the whole details but basically they work by when you pull the trigger, it actuates a lever that makes a valve release a jet of air sending the paintball out of the barrel. After this the bolt is pushed back by a ram, opening the breach for another ball to drop in. When the trigger is released the bolt moves forward and the gun is ready to fire again. Autocockers are fiddley beasts, which usually require skilled tuning to make them operate to the best of their abilities. These days this mechanical operation of the 'cocker has been upgraded with electronic kits such as the EBlade and Racegun. Instead of levers and valves, the modern (more expensive) cockers use electronic valves to control the firing process, allowing faster rates of fire and less headaches for the owners. 'Cokers are generally re known for their good accuracy and how kick ass they look and sound

Personally, I'd recommend staying well away from a bog standard mechanical 'cocker. I feel than an impulse would be the better purchase if you are not that experience, unless you can afford a well set-up electronic cocker.

 

[H]

Oh yeah, just thought I'd also mention that the best rate of fire that you'll be able to get out of most mechanical 'cockers would be in the region of about 8bps. Whereas an impulse, out of the box is capable of around 17bps, although it does depend on which model of Impulse it is (vision, cricket, etc). Cockers with electronic kits like the EBlade and Racegun are capable of rates of fires you can only hope to achieve (40bps or there abouts).

 

[dr.strangelove]

Yep, that's basically it.

Autococker operates exactly like a pump, but with a low pressure re-cocking mechanism (consisting of a regulator, 4 way valve (or solenoid valve in an electro) and a pneumatic ram) attached to the front in place of a pump handle. In a mechanical cocker, your trigger serves two purposes. First, it trips the sear, releasing the hammer and firing the marker (this would be the "beginning" of the "firing cycle"). It is also attached via a linkage rod to the 4 way valve, which moves back and forth with the trigger and directs low pressure air from the regulator to either the front or back of the ram to make the bolt and attached back block move backward or forward, cocking and recocking the marker (this being the "end" of the firing cycle). In an electronic autococker, the same thing happens, but instead of being attached to the 4 way valve via a linkage rod, the trigger is actuates a switch on a circuit board and sends a signal to an electronic solenoid valve in place of the mechanical 4 way valve.

The Impulse is a typical open bolt electro. When you pull the trigger, you actuate a switch on the circuit board, sending a signal to a low pressure solenoid valve to direct air to an internal ram (much like the autococker, except the ram is internal and has the hammer attached, and the bolt linked to it via the hammer). The ram, and subsequently the hammer, moves forward, carrying the bolt with it. The hammer strikes the valve releasing air into the bolt chamber and a ball is propelled forward. Then, the solenoid valve resets, the ram moves back, bringing the hammer and bolt with it, and resets the cycle.

Impulse = more dummy proof, IMO. But it depends on your preference, and your ability and willingness to learn about the marker you choose (with the impulse, you'll basically just have to learn how to turn it on. With the cocker, you SHOULD have a pretty good idea about how the re-cocking system works and timing and troubleshooting.) To give a way overused answer, Try 'em both and see which one's "right for you". Good luck.

 

[H]

Damn you.....you just had to make it complex and undermine my 'doo-dahs'.

Bloody show off

 

[jahlad]

best advice however is to try both and see what YOU like, i personally dont like impys i dont think they balance well....but that is MY opinion
best bet is go to a tournie and ask a couple of players if you can try their markers, failing that go to one of the big shops and do the same......they will be more than happy to help im sure of it, but in the end its all down to personal taste

 

[joeyarmstrong]

yeah, cheers guys,
i know i should try out everything i can get my hands on, just wanted to know abit more of the technical side of the markers

thanks alot for the help guys!!!!! much appreciated

 

[dr.strangelove]

Originally posted by TheBroz
Damn you.....you just had to make it complex and undermine my 'doo-dahs'.

Bloody show off

 

[JmasterP]

I had an impulse and they are very good starter markers, i have since upgraded to an 03 shocker and never looked back, once the efficency has been sorted they are awsome markers, i've also got an angel which again is a very good marker, and you can pick up a second hand speed for the price of a new imp.

 

[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by dr.strangelove

Good god! At least have the decency to put WORDS in your post!