Compressors- danger of explosion?
- Thread starter Gups
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Gups i'm sure that there are still some 'cowboys' in paintball. I would think tho that any site that is registered with an insuarance company etc will have to show that sufficiant and suitable maintanence has and is carried out on any air compressor equipment that employees and patrons will use/ be in the vicinity of.
Although Sites with insuarance will be playing the game, there will be many who aren't and this is just another one of those disasters waiting to occur cos someone thinks they can by-pass it to save a few pennies.
UKPSF possibly could request that site members state their markers propellent sources, and show that staff are trained in the correct maintenence and use of it- both CO2 and AIR, this way some form of control could be implemented, apart from the cowboys- an we don't play at their ranch
A.B
Although Sites with insuarance will be playing the game, there will be many who aren't and this is just another one of those disasters waiting to occur cos someone thinks they can by-pass it to save a few pennies.
UKPSF possibly could request that site members state their markers propellent sources, and show that staff are trained in the correct maintenence and use of it- both CO2 and AIR, this way some form of control could be implemented, apart from the cowboys- an we don't play at their ranch
A.B
Exactly AB... " I would like to think" too, but thats the point...are we too trusting? At a site i went to recently the guy operating the compressor didnt really seem to know what he was doing and another guy kept coming over to show him what to do (eek scary!) at one point a lot of oil was squirted up the hose just before it was my turn to fill. I turned on the air briefly before attaching my bottle to blow the oil out after seeing another players air system go down straight after a fill... Never thought of the 'combustion' element till now, but it makes ya think, huh?
Before ppl get the wrong idea, i'm not trying to scaremonger...this incident wasn't related to paintball.
I'm just asking the question 'Is this something that is being considered with compressors in the paintball industry'?...
(H-PAC excepted as i'm sure their state of the art equipment is properly maintained)!
Might be worth looking into if your site uses a compressor?
I'm just asking the question 'Is this something that is being considered with compressors in the paintball industry'?...
(H-PAC excepted as i'm sure their state of the art equipment is properly maintained)!
Might be worth looking into if your site uses a compressor?
The answer is not to use flammable lubricants with high-pressure equipment. VERY BAD THINGS happen if you do, as you can see. Firstly, oil in an HPA system can be sprayed into an aerosol (a mist of oil) which ignites very easily due to having plenty of air to react with; secondly the heat produced by compression/flow of air can kick-start the combustion process.
There are oils and lubricants specifically intended for air systems which do not mist easily, and have much higher ignition temperatures, thus avoiding the risk. I believe (but don't hold me liable if someone kills themselves after reading this and not checking up for themselves) that oils recommended for paintball equipment are safe for use with HPA systems.
Needless to say, anyone using standard lawnmower oil in their fill rig or compressor is a danger to themselves and others.
If in doubt about your fill system or one you use, get in touch with H-PAC or the company that supplied it, and they will should have the answers.
There are oils and lubricants specifically intended for air systems which do not mist easily, and have much higher ignition temperatures, thus avoiding the risk. I believe (but don't hold me liable if someone kills themselves after reading this and not checking up for themselves) that oils recommended for paintball equipment are safe for use with HPA systems.
Needless to say, anyone using standard lawnmower oil in their fill rig or compressor is a danger to themselves and others.
If in doubt about your fill system or one you use, get in touch with H-PAC or the company that supplied it, and they will should have the answers.
Yep, it was rather unfortunate for two of the Tsunami guys who had their air systems completely foocked by the new way of dealing with fills as highlighted above
H-Pac PLEASE reply to this thread
Before you all going mad on this subject ,Please just stop and Think logically ,All Reputable sites will have a certificate of air purity for their Compressor system and if they don`t then don`t fill your system from theirs !!!!,How many people remember the air system at Temple ? and how many guns went down ?well enough said !(you know who you are ).
The ONLY air system I trust belongs to H-Pac because they supply breathing quality air ,and if its good enough to breath then its pure enough for my air system ,as for all the cowboys out there if you continue to use them ,they will continue to F**k up your markers and air systems and maybe cost you a lot more !!.
If they are insured then every year they will have a safety inspection by a qualified engineer who works for the insurance company and if the equipment isn`t up to spec then they won`t get insured !.
hope this helps,
Darren.
If in doubt ask ASK !!!!.and if you don`t like their answer WALK off site .
Before you all going mad on this subject ,Please just stop and Think logically ,All Reputable sites will have a certificate of air purity for their Compressor system and if they don`t then don`t fill your system from theirs !!!!,How many people remember the air system at Temple ? and how many guns went down ?well enough said !(you know who you are ).
The ONLY air system I trust belongs to H-Pac because they supply breathing quality air ,and if its good enough to breath then its pure enough for my air system ,as for all the cowboys out there if you continue to use them ,they will continue to F**k up your markers and air systems and maybe cost you a lot more !!.
If they are insured then every year they will have a safety inspection by a qualified engineer who works for the insurance company and if the equipment isn`t up to spec then they won`t get insured !.
hope this helps,
Darren.
If in doubt ask ASK !!!!.and if you don`t like their answer WALK off site .
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just checked out the link
1 this is in Australia
2 It was in a Body shop
3 It`s operating pressure is only between 150&200 Psi
4 Imagine what could happen if it had been 4500 psi ?
5 If it had been the latter all you would see is a F***i++
big crater and lots of dead people for about 50-100 feet,something to think about next time you "Flash fill" your air tank ! from empty.
just checked out the link
1 this is in Australia
2 It was in a Body shop
3 It`s operating pressure is only between 150&200 Psi
4 Imagine what could happen if it had been 4500 psi ?
5 If it had been the latter all you would see is a F***i++
big crater and lots of dead people for about 50-100 feet,something to think about next time you "Flash fill" your air tank ! from empty.