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sjt19

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dude, for around $1000 you can get a pretty sweet cocker! An electro if you check out the forums on here, or have a look at company websites. Have a look at Matrixes, Shockers, Impulses, Imtimidators and Angels too dude.
 

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Considering a stock 2003 WGP cocker is about $330 then for $600-$700 you've got a hell of a lot to work with!

Do you want to go electro with say an eblade? if so then it will be nearer the $1000 mark as say a NightKast is $1025 I believe
 
thank you ever so much for your help. this is what i was thinking... autococker- upgraded by some aftermarket tuner of sorts.
i realize that i could go electro for around $1000 or even less, but i'm pretty set on a cocker, call me crazy. i want something reliable, but it doesn't have to be crazy-ass fast.
for, say, $700, what could i get...?

thanks again.
 

ChrisWhiteSTEL

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Well every marker has its bad days with reliability, especially when things go wrong that have no obvious remedy.

More and more people from the states are choosing the UK now for cocker upgrades. Companies like Belsales and Planet offer some pretty superior upgrades compared to there US counterparts.

Some cocker-lovin-mofo will be on here soon expressing his pressures and rolling sears :D.

Cockers get the job done!
 

Tom Allen

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I know all the cocker fans will jump on this one, but, if you're looking for a reliable marker, a cocker wouldn't be my first choice.

The cocker is made up of interchangeable add-ons, and although this is good for upgrading and modifying, for the average point and shoot paintballer,a simpler more reliable setup would be preferable.

With Smart Parts current attitude towards the future of paintball, personally i wouldn't promote any of their products. That leaves timmys and angels as the main sellers, and my choice would be an angel.

The Angel range of markers, are fast, reliable, easy to maintain, have interchangeable parts and are well supported everywhere. You would easily find an angel setup within your price range.

Good hunting, hope you find the marker that suits you needs.

Tom.
 

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Would have to disagree Toma, had a top of the range IR3 retailing at about £1400 and had nothing but bother with it. Have owned 5 cockers and have had little or no problems as long as there not tinkered with :)

This may be an odd occurence so I am told, but this is my only experience of Angels, and for the cost of the one I had I expected far better quality control, and little to no problems :)

Dave

P.S. Don't now shoot a cocker so am not trying to sway you towards something I use :)
 

Tom Allen

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Hi Dave, this is what we need on this thread, pros and cons. Unfortunately my view with cockers has been tainted by years of unreliability, bad timing problems and poor after sales service.

They have improved things recently, but the marker is still a bit of a make up of bolt on bits. Surely by now they could design the parts into the frame, it's not that difficult.

"As long as they're not tinkered with"

This is the problem, markers need to be serviced, cleaned and maintained, you can't do this without some sort of "tinkering". I like the idea of the cocker, but not the product.

Recently i spoke to a sponsored team, who have changed over to cockers, and their reply to the maintenance side of things was, "just send it back", unfortunately you can't do that eight o'clock Sunday morning.

I must admit that i have just done the tech course with WDP, and it was an eye opener, to see the way the company has gone forward and improved the product, not only in the design, but the way that the marker is manufactured. The attention to detail in the manufacturing process gives me faith in the markers, and as a toolmaker i appreciate the quality of engineering.