slowly i am understanding more about markers of today, but someone tell me this what is better Co2 or nitrogen power ?????
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help someoneCo2 Versus Nitrogen
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Both have their benefits and problems.
Co2 : Pros :
- You can get more shots per fill
- Cheap
- Most sites will fill Co2
Cons :
- Dirty
- Inconcistant
- Cold (its nasty peeling your hands off a frozen tank)
- Slow recharge
Air (Nitrogen) : Pros :
- Very concistant
- Faster recharge rate
- Clean
- Not cold
Cons :
- Not as many shots per fill (if you have a medium sized 3000psi, though 4500psi tanks get just as many shots)
- Expensive
- Not all fields fill air.
Overall most people prefer air (I do) it will improve the perfomance of your marker to no end, you'll see the benefits over Co2 as soon as you get it.
Co2 : Pros :
- You can get more shots per fill
- Cheap
- Most sites will fill Co2
Cons :
- Dirty
- Inconcistant
- Cold (its nasty peeling your hands off a frozen tank)
- Slow recharge
Air (Nitrogen) : Pros :
- Very concistant
- Faster recharge rate
- Clean
- Not cold
Cons :
- Not as many shots per fill (if you have a medium sized 3000psi, though 4500psi tanks get just as many shots)
- Expensive
- Not all fields fill air.
Overall most people prefer air (I do) it will improve the perfomance of your marker to no end, you'll see the benefits over Co2 as soon as you get it.
how will normal compressed air improve the performance of the marker. can you run all markers of compressed air???
It will improve the performance of your marker by recharging the valve inside quicker. On Co2 in long strings the pressure will drop (depending on the weather) and the valve wont recharge fully, and so you will loose velocity. HPA (High Pressure Air) provides constant air flow to your marker.
You can run most markers of air - some older ones require you to use Co2 siphon tanks (so they cant use air i presume). Most markers run at about 800psi so you can buy a cheap screwin tank to replace Co2 and that will put it on air.
You can run most markers of air - some older ones require you to use Co2 siphon tanks (so they cant use air i presume). Most markers run at about 800psi so you can buy a cheap screwin tank to replace Co2 and that will put it on air.
JUST TO CLARIFY - IF I BOUGHT A NEW MARKER RIGED FOR Co2 ALL I WOULD HAVE TO DO IS FILL THE TANK WITH COMPRESSES AIR AND AWAY I GO. if so does this eliminate the need for expansion chanbers.
HELL NO! NO! NO! Co2 tanks are designed to hold liquid Co2 and gas, it can only hold pressures of around 1000psi (think the burst disk goes at 1200psi). So if you try and put in 3000psi, it will end up damaging, blowing up and embedding your body with schrapnel. Also if you did fill it with 1000psi of gas then it would be usless because the gas would be unregulated and over-pressurise your marker damaging it and possibly causing danger.
Your marker should be able to hand air as long as you buy a "in-test" bottle and reg. In-test means that it has be "hydrotested" (dont worry about that) and is safe for X number of years. They are the only things you can put air in.
You are right about air not needing expansion chambers though.
DONT PUT AIR IN CO2 BOTTLES - DONT PUT CO2 IN AIR BOTTLES!
Your marker should be able to hand air as long as you buy a "in-test" bottle and reg. In-test means that it has be "hydrotested" (dont worry about that) and is safe for X number of years. They are the only things you can put air in.
You are right about air not needing expansion chambers though.
DONT PUT AIR IN CO2 BOTTLES - DONT PUT CO2 IN AIR BOTTLES!
Hi
You will here the americans talking about nitrogen it's ok there but illegal here I don not know the finner points just thst it is.
Some markers will take but co2 and air most need adaptors some just simply won't. Always check. If you have the money for air ie the set up and the refills air is the preferable of the two. Co2 is a dirty gas or liquid ( markers run on either liquid or gas and have to be set up accordingly sphioned or anti spihoned) it will rip your o rings apart quicker and cause more long term wear and tear it dose not like extreams of heat or cold and becomes tempermental during either. It is also harder to fill then too, and yes if you don not wear your gloves and goggles you can get nasty freeze burns
but most sites have co2 for free
Both tanks need to be tested and should only be used while in date and should be in good condition with no bumps ect.
Air is expencive to start with and can be a pain to get dive tanks filled and having to fit them into your car with all your kit.
You will here the americans talking about nitrogen it's ok there but illegal here I don not know the finner points just thst it is.
Some markers will take but co2 and air most need adaptors some just simply won't. Always check. If you have the money for air ie the set up and the refills air is the preferable of the two. Co2 is a dirty gas or liquid ( markers run on either liquid or gas and have to be set up accordingly sphioned or anti spihoned) it will rip your o rings apart quicker and cause more long term wear and tear it dose not like extreams of heat or cold and becomes tempermental during either. It is also harder to fill then too, and yes if you don not wear your gloves and goggles you can get nasty freeze burns
but most sites have co2 for free
Both tanks need to be tested and should only be used while in date and should be in good condition with no bumps ect.
Air is expencive to start with and can be a pain to get dive tanks filled and having to fit them into your car with all your kit.
as far as i know the smart parts max flo system and bottles can run on either air or co2. so if u run out of air and the feild only does co2 fills no problems!!
ciaran do you even know what a siphon is its just a tube u put in your tank so no liquid gets in your system the presure of your hp tank dosent even make diff in the # of shots you get just the ci's i dont even know why u post so much u really dont know a whole lot
Hi
So in conclusion, compressed air is n2.
If you can find out why N2 is illegal as you have said, i would appreciate it.
-Micah
I'm sorry Sparklie, but what the heck are you talking about? Nitorgen is compressed air as air (the stuff you're breathing right now) is what 95% nitrogen as is. So when you compress air, you're compressing nitrogen.
So in conclusion, compressed air is n2.
If you can find out why N2 is illegal as you have said, i would appreciate it.
-Micah