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Skillet007

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Iknow that some of you Tourny Players are going to be on this like white on rice, but, what exactly are cheat boards. I am just now starting to crawl out of woodsball and into tourny and i keep hearing it more and more. I know it has something to do with the speed of your marker but what does it exactly do?
 

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While full auto and other rates of fire like burst are allowed in rec play in the states, only semi auto is allowed in the tourneys. 1 pull = 1 shot. The skill is to be able to pull the trigger quick enough to achieve a high rate of fire. However some people have boards that when they reach a certain rate of trigger pulls per second start add extra shots E.g. 8 trigger-pulls per second = 15 shots per second.

This is sometimes known specifically as Rate of fire Ramping. and allows higher rates of fire to be achieved, but aside from being cheating, increases the likelyhood of someone getting hurt.

Another more dangerous type is dwell ramping. The dwell is the amount of time the valve is open for. The higher the dwell the faster the ball comes out of the barrel. The guys that use this are trying to get round the chrono judge by chrononing below 300 foot per second at the start of the game, and then playing at a higher fps.

The benifit of this is longer range, hits more likely to burst. The cost - a ball going straight through someones lense, over the top bruises etc, crushed widepipe.

The can be detected by chrono judges in most cases, but there are also cheater boards with concealed functions like tap-tappity-tap-tap a code on the trigger and then hold it down and you have full auto or higher dwell until another code is put in or there are no shots fired for a few seconds. This is so that when a ref trys to check the marker at the end of the game or when the player is eliminated, the cheat functions are deactivated.

The NXL (top US x-ball clique) have basically give a green light to cheater boards. Why? - to make the game more interesting, easier than dealing with the problem, who knows.

The NPPL have taken the opposite tac clamping down on it disqualifying teams found to be using them and banning use of kit manufactured by companies that produce cheater boards.

One recent controversy was that smart parts have released a marker (the nerve) that has ROF ramping as standard. Seems a bit silly as all the chrono judges now know this, but hey.

Not a conclusive answer but what i understand on the topic. Hope it helps. :)
 

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From what i can see after testing a nerve out is that the board doesnt 'ramp', it just takes over.

So you have to actually achieved the preset speed before it the board takes over and maintains your max ROF speed while you keep tapping away on the trigger, not necessarily at this peak speed.

Therefore you have to be fast enough to get to the speed you set the board to in order for it to come into play...

Hope that makes sense!?

-Paul
 

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The reason for allowing enhanced rates of fire in the NXL is to make the games better to watch, through ease of play. Allowing players to run and gun at high rates of fire looks better and leads to faster more spectacular eliminations.

Also NXL ROF is capped at 15 bps, and they have sophisticated equipment to ensure it is. Don't get me wrong 15 is still bloody fast, but they have made an enforceable Cap. I also believe that it less FA but allowed Ramping. The user has to have / make some volition to make the gun fire. that could be 4 trigger pulls a second = 15 out the barrel, I'm not a 100% sure.

Levelling the playing field has all possible removed some of the more dangerous cheats, although that's a theory. Not heard of any velocity ramps in use in the NXL, but I could be wrong.

You also need to consider that it's safe to shoot enhanced ROFs in the NXL or any higher league as we generally shoot paint that breaks. Shooting crap site grade paint at 8 bps is arguably much more dangerous than premium at 15. At least it's frangible. We've played Philly Americans before, and despite enhanced firing modes, the welts were less and the game was safe due to paint quality (a much overlooked safety factor).

I think Cheater boards to a degree are over hyped, you can get most high end semis to "give you help", and still make it relatively easy to get past a chrono judge.
 

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Originally posted by MrPink
NXL Board = 1st, 2nd and third shots are semi, then pull and hold for 15bps f/a. Release the trigger and you have to start the cycle again.
But only if you pull those first 3 shots quick enough otherwise it is still semi.....now, if you have some other code in your markers.....
 

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They have radar equipment to detect anything over 15bps, and the penalties are not worth breaking the rules. At least the NXL has been able to enforce and draw a line in the sand.

Well it appears so anyway, I'll let Manike take it up if he wishes.
 

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I think you misunderstood my use of the word other it was meant in that the NXL code is 3 shots semi and then FA @15bps but that makes it sound as if all you have to do it go pull one, two, three ...yehaaay! Well the true NXL code isn't like that as you have to pull those first three shots within a time frame to allow the FA to kick in. If it isn't and it is the first three shots are stored then it is a cheat...this code was out as soon as the 15bps FA was announced.
I assume you noticed that the Speedy chips have now been banned (NPPL) so that should take care of that cheat board for now. The ramping dwell (FPS) is still about as is the ramping speed (ROF)...It is as confusing as ever as one series calls ramping one thing and another uses the other definition or even denys that there are two types of ramping...they are both valid but for the sake of clarity they need to be seperated with different terms. The widespread use of the detecting equipment is simply not widespread...it exists but how many times have you seen it used....kinda like the robot, it is about but not always able to used.