Campaign

[Nitestorm]

I've played a few times before, but this was my first time at Campaign...a few weeks ago. Generally I did enjoy myself, the food, rental gear and marshals were all good. The weather did take the edge off the day. Not the weather on the day (that was perfect), but the previous weeks of rain had turned all the fields into a mud bath (especially the speedball arena). Thus making running difficult (not good when playing speedball) and getting a caking of mud everytime you lie down in cover. But overall a good days rec-ball.

Although, wasn't too impressed by the late start (approx 11-11:30am), only 7 or so games during the day (wasn't even warned it was the last game till after we had bought extra paint on the basis we had couple more games left), plus the cost of on-site paint (at least TWICE the retail cost of same brand from Planet). Certainly the cost of on-site paint does put me off doing it regularly. I know they have to make money from something (explains the Porsche parked there), but sheesh, when you get trigger happy or have to do a lot of defending, it does add up. I can see why many friends were put off spending at least £50+ on a day out not knowing if they'd actually like paintball or not.

 

[jamphi24]

the previous weeks of rain had turned all the fields into a mud bath

Mate it is always muddy there whether it has been raining or not.

 

[webby]

CAMPAIN

If You want to go to a good site then try camelot events in dorking average games are about 11 but as the customer you tell us when the games are over we have to finish when it gets dark but we play on until then. We Also hold walk on days for those who have there own equipment.
and you wont find a better speedball field than other site. also all fields will be floodlight.

 

[Darkwerks]

I was less than impressed at Campaign. I played there last year. Although I was using all my own gear, I had to pay they same as the rentals. The fee of £17.50 did not include any paintballs, which were £7/100
There was no chrongraph, one of the marshalls judged my velocity by watching how far the paintballs flew. Several players were allowed to play in old-fashioned goggles that had no ear protection.
The safety lecture at the beginning was demonstrated by shooting at a board in the safe area. There were no barrel plugs.
We were alllowed to take off our masks when games were over, despite the fact that there were live games in adjacent fields.
The paint had been improperly stored, with lots of dimples and flat spots.
When one of the players badly twisted his ankle during a game, it was up to me to treat him. There was no staff first-aider or first-aid kit.

 

[jamphi24]

Darkwerks:
I don't know who asked you to write that to slag off campaign as most of that is the same at most sites a few points were also untrue.
The £17.50 is very reasonable as I know sites that charge £35+. Campaign does not encourage people with there own guns hence no discount due to the fact customers get upset when experienced players start playing hard and taking it too seriously. If you want to play with your own gun I suggest doing a walk on day.
The £17.50 does include paint (100 paintballs to be precise).
Paint is not £7 per hundred it is £6.
There are no longer goggles without ear protection used at campaign so it must have been the customers own googles and they must have worn them at there own choice.
The target board for the talk is safely far above peoples heads and fair bit behind them. The person firing the gun is an experienced person and also people are asked to move out of the way so they are not directly in the line of fire. As to barrel bungs the demo gun is always bunged any other guns entering the safe zone must also be bunged but since no site guns come into the safe area there is no need to bung them.
As regards to taking your masks off you are only allowed to do it under supervised conditions and people are kept away from the guns. Players would not be allowed to take masks off if at risk from other fields. If other fields are playing people are taken deep into the field so not at risk.

 

[Darkwerks]

I'm happy to be corrected about the price of paint, my apologies.

I don't know who asked you to write that to slag off campaign

No-one asked me... this thread was started by someone else, I was expressing an opinion and relating my experience.

The £17.50 does include paint (100 paintballs to be precise).

I certainly did not recieve this. I asked when I paid my game fee how much paint was included and was told "none".

Campaign does not encourage people with there own guns hence no discount due to the fact customers get upset when experienced players start playing hard and taking it too seriously

Why was I allowed to use my own gear then?No-one complained to me or to the staff about me using my marker.It's not just the marker, I have my own battlepack and pods, mask, and clothing. I didn't need to use any site gear, all of which could then be rented out to someone else. Campaign saves money by not having wear-and-tear or maintenance on it's gear. Seems fair to offer me a discount, doesn't it? Especially as that extra money I'm saving would almost certainly be spent on extra paint, where the real profit is, surely?

If you want to play with your own gun I suggest doing a walk on day.

I wanted to play on what was supposed to be one of the best sites in England....I asked about own-gun days, but was told they were no more.

The target board for the talk is safely far above peoples heads and fair bit behind them. The person firing the gun is an experienced person and also people are asked to move out of the way so they are not directly in the line of fire.

I've played at a few sites, and I can think of nowhere else that does this. Besides not being safe, it sets a poor example to rental players. It could just as easily have been done at the target range when everyone was wearing goggles.
As to the players wearing their own goggles without ear protection, would it be alright if I wore mine without the face protection? or not at all? As long as it's my choice?
How about you address my other problems? I assume from this you work for Campaign?
If there was no chrono, how could the marshalls tell if the site guns are firing within safe limits? What about that £6 paint that was near to unusable?

 

[NIALL]

Dear Darkwerks

Just picked up on this thread and as you are talking about my business I suppose I should interject.

Well firstly. I'm a little pissed off.

Chronos. We always have at least two Radar Chrono's on site. I supply all the main tournaments in Europe with chrono's so why would I not have one on site?

True, we do not encourage walk ons. Why ? Very often they are rude, arrogant and patronising and care too much about ripping it up against the inexperienced. Why should one or two players spoil it for every one else. It only takes one prat to spoil someones enjoyment of their first days paintball and they won't play again. Why should you pay less for paint than the guy next to you in the queue. Its unethical. If a gun owner wants to Play, (and many do) its no problem ( WE repair many a leak!!) BUT do not expect a license to piss off those people off who have paid good money to play.

I have been in paintball for 14 years, Jim 15, we are the two that do the game speech. I think our judgment on the presentation of a game speech has a degree of experience to it, Safety always is paramount.

I would also suggest that if you have a problem then you refer it to us and not bad mouthing over the internet. We have one of the most popular venues in Europe are proud of what we do. Do I know you Darkwerks? Why not call the office, ask for me and talk through any bad experience you may have had. I will try to rectify any shortcomings. Or do you have another motive?

Finally, If you are one of the afore mentioned "prats" then do me a favour and stay away!

To all those friends of Campaign.. LOve you all..

Niall

PS THe site is now completely dry!!!!

 

[Tom Tom]

Never played at campaign so this is not a "hit" on Campaign, Just a quick question for Niall.

I understand your point of why sholud the guy in the que get his paint for less than the guy behind him. Thats OK and fair enuff. So would you allow for a game fee of say £30-£40 a player to bring his/her own paint, The other customers would not know the price you paid.

As for the players who are "customer hunting" I have never seen this behaviour (but I aint been dong p8ntball as long as you )
Set some ground rules, Any rude or over the top behaviour you sit out one game do it again and you leave the site.

OK so i can lay down more paint than MR. X but most people understand the spirit of other peoples days and it is almost a positive advert for the sport. Shows people we are about more than just the woods.

Heck if someone comes up to me and asks me questions about my marker (and i get on with them) They can borrow it for a game. Let them experience what it is like. I have lent out my spare JTs many times to people who wear glasses or just find site goggles too uncomftable and this in some cases has brought more peolpe into the fold because they see it is not just some old sweaty goggles and not always reliable markers.

Thats not aimed at any site but not every site gun always works perfectly.

Also do you not run walk on days?

Cheers for the help

Tom Tom

 

[Darkwerks]

Chrono: I asked to use one, and I was told none was available. If they had one, why wouldn't they let me use it?
Game fee: I wouldn't ask for cheaper paint. I'm happy to pay the same as everyone else. My point is this- you as a site owner have to pay for guns, goggles and the rest of the rental gear. You have to pay for the maintenance and upkeep of it. If I bring my own gear, you don't have any costs to cover. I'm happy to pay a reasonable game fee. If I wasn't renting the gear, why should I pay a rental fee?
I have no motive here at all, other than replying to this thread by relating my own experience at a site. I'm not the kind of player who would "rip up" other players. I am always aware that they are there to have fun, as much as I am. I try and be helpful,I offered advice to my team mates, I assisted several players on the day, kept a few of them safe.
You don't know me. I don't play tournaments. I'm happy to phone and speak to you, if you wish to discuss the matter further.

 

[kartmann187]

Campaign.... It ROCKS

The site that seems to be getting bad press is being done so by complete idiots, who obviously have no idea. The two guys that run this place work hard and do nothing but help the sport.. This REALLY gets me going.....

Saying stuff about the site always being wet is rubbish. Let me think.... The site is wet.... Oh when it rains or has been raining. If you do not like the wet then go play squash or ten pin bowling on a Sunday... Its an outside sport... weather will always play a part in your game experience.

Campaign is not a site where you go and play if you have your own kit. Its been designed as far as I can see as a site with the new customer in mind. The entire structure is based on safety and a happy atmosphere. Its this kind of site that gets people into the sport and in doing so gets more people on our side to get the game recognised as a sport by the government. Its is by far the best site for none players to go to and has a huge customer return which specks for its self.

The site is loved by many people and this is shown by the annual Wurzel Bash that happens every year. This is when friends and teams are invited to play and have a laugh (something that most players have forgotten about... we play the sport because we enjoy it and have fun)

In all the site is very well managed and the amount of people that go there specks for itself... If you want someone who has not played or had a bad experience in the past the get them down to Campaign... They will always come back and have a great day out every time.

The site has from when I was last there been (being) modernized and now has hard flooring to all fields. There is running water on site and power... You do not get this kind of commitment from the management at other sites.. there putting money back into the site to make the experience better for the customer... Its not all about profit.. its about being happy with the product that you are selling and being happy with the way your company looks.....

So to finish.... you want to say that Campaign is a BAD site... well you can have your opinion... But I would have to say .... YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT AND NEED TO STOP PLAYING...... YOU ARE DOING THE GAME NO FAVOURS... GO STICK YOUR HE IN A COWS ARSE

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