Mikey,
I would listen to perm boy ... I agree that this would be most dificult, but I also cannot see why you would want to do this? A B2k and angel both have 45 frames!
Permboy also has 350+ posts, which means he has no life, and a slogan reading 'in bed wit a beutiful woman' which means he has no girlfreind... this means he has plenty of time to find out weird and wonderfull things from the internet... this pretty much makes him an expert... so in this respect I bow out to his superior credentials.
Who loves ya baby?!
Trev