doo-doo...i didnt say "i dont know what im talkin about"...all i said was i dont know MUCH about Shockers...but i DO know that they arent auto....you can get some **** to make it auto but its not auto out of the box...
AND, ... STTAB, yes it is the LCD grip (which comes stock on lcd angels now...) make the Angel automatic...BUT the lcd isnt only automatic...it has diff firing modes...most of the time in tournaments you have to set the gun (if it has lcd grip) on tournament mode..which only allows semi-auto b/c most tourneys dont allow auto, turbo, bursts, etc...