I dunno to much about guns i have only been paintballing for 4 days now and im doing alright my spyder tl plus help up pretty good for being stock..... Guys theres must have been way over 25 players with autocockers i could everyone was having problems with them they had to sit out mad games to fix them to me they looked like a big piece of garbage for the money..... It was pretty bad .... i dunno to much about paintballing but i do know when sum one is spaming cause there $700+ gun is acting gay my spyder TL+ was kiking ass i didnt eliminate alot of people but still i shot like hell with no ball chops and no problems i just loaded it up and kept gaming liek 10 games today i must have fired over 1200 shots not one ball choped so i dunno why people say spiders chop balls maybe u shouldnt pick up the ones from the ground and puttum in ur gun ..........