I (personal opinion here) belive bon was wining this argument. Call me wrong i really dont mind.
There has been many posts saying what our for fathers fought for etc, then you hear the old chaps in the boozer say look at what our country has become, well in that case was this not their fault for making the country the way it is?
I think i posted in this section of the forum about the BNP before and had a good read up on them. I dont class them as rasist i class them as proud of herritage and none of them from factual evedence have said they do not like people because of the colour of their skin or origin. What they say is give British people back some kind of power without the fear or being called a racist. Is a person racist because they are proud to be british? Well the common sense answer is yes they are if you believe what some non white people preach and of course these people have their own aggenders hidden somewhere.
I am proud to be british and what being british was all about many many years ago, does this make me racist? Some might say yes.
When you go back through history the white man has took a lend of others in THEIR country, go no further then the American Indians or the Australian aborigines etc, yip we done a number on them but realised what we done was wrong then tried to give something back.
I think bon was correct that we have came to a point where people wont let heavy handed behaviour slip and we are more wise to the world for want of a better way of putting it.
So would it be a bad thing to try and provoke change? From what i can gather these guys dont want to kill anyone or infact upset normal working people, they want the hard working people to help themselves.
There is millions of stuff that this thread could cover about good policies the BNP want but eveyone seems to jump the good old rasist chant to cover over how mainstream partys act.
I dont think the world is all about race anymore thats been well covered with no winners, whats going on right now is the race for money and global assets, in which case we are losing very badly. Give whomever crys the most the pennys and stuff the good old british public they will just do whatever they are told anyways otherwise we pull the race card on them or manufacture a few false truths and discredit someone who doesnt agree.
Everyone likes a good say on what is important to them and politics is trying to juggle a nice medium that betters everyone. Not the racists, not the do gooders but the country as a whole.
This country is racist very racist and thats racist towards the people who built it.
I am white and british and very proud of how our country came to be, a tiny little island with an empire that covered 2/3's of the world, an empire which is the basis of the modern world, if it wasnt for this empire there would have been much more poverty and suffering, lack of education, lack of law and understanding of other cultures.
What we done is help bring other countrys in line with modern ways of thinking, this education was ultimately our downfall as some of these educated people worked out how to exploit.
Do i have a problem with black, white, non english speaking ethnic minorities etc? Nope not in the slightest, if its taking food from our babys mouths then we need to find a happy medium where everyone is equal not just out bred. I think non white people have far to much say in what white people should be thinking, this begs the question what are their motives?
It could be argued that these people belive in the out breading of a race ultimatly giving them power so really there is to many ways to cover the race issue.
I think what people should focus on is being truly non racist and saying it how they want to without the fear of being told they are racist just to end an argument.
For me the BNP isnt all about race its about giving everyone a voice not just the do gooder etc.
Anyways i am boring myself now and my post was all over the place so your best bet was to just skip it from the start, but it done a great job of filling in a spare half hour
