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stongle

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You need to shut up! Or bring some decent comments to a discussion!

Thank you!
If anyone is telling anyone to shut up, it'll be a Mod. Gurkha has a fair point, a fancy website does not a quality league make.

One of the problems with UK ball is the constant talking up a game format which isn't applicable to 90% of the player bases commitment level. Tournament Super Air is an elite paintball format not one for the masses. The way to rebuild competative UK ball is to promote recreational ball first (with site support), with only the very best making the switch to sport paintball.

There is no overnight, or give people supair and they will come easy fix for UK paintball as the correct infrastructure does not yet exist.

So either get a better argument, or why don't you do what you was telling Mr Gurkha.
 
If anyone is telling anyone to shut up, it'll be a Mod. Gurkha has a fair point, a fancy website does not a quality league make.

One of the problems with UK ball is the constant talking up a game format which isn't applicable to 90% of the player bases commitment level. Tournament Super Air is an elite paintball format not one for the masses. The way to rebuild competative UK ball is to promote recreational ball first (with site support), with only the very best making the switch to sport paintball.

There is no overnight, or give people supair and they will come easy fix for UK paintball as the correct infrastructure does not yet exist.

So either get a better argument, or why don't you do what you was telling Mr Gurkha.
There we go again...pointless!
 

Potter Loki

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You need to shut up! Or bring some decent comments to a discussion!

Thank you!
i thought it was a good point, now im not one to talk but if someone doesnt like your way of thinking you usually cast them off as being completeally wrong anyway:eek:
 

stongle

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There we go again...pointless!

Why?

Because I find your oft repeated nonsense tiring??? You'll one of the piedpipers that caused the sorry state of affairs in the first place. You believe your own hype. A lot of kid's want to beleive all the hype, when it turns out to be BS they leave the sport.
 

Tartan Blaster

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There we go again...pointless!
what so basically any idea other than yours or any attempt to deabte with you is pointless but your arguement is the word of god?

Though I admire what you are trying to do I first of all strongly disagree with how you are going about it (insulting 2 other players and an entire series to boot) and also how you intend to do it (which all I see is complain till someone does it for you)

However I still do not necessarily agree with your proposal. Increased regulation of the the uk paintball scene would undoubtedly be a good thing but a single league I believe is not the way to go about it.

Firstly last time I checked monopolies were out of fashion and , in the paintball world at least, I can see why. Europe has a single unified league the millenium but has that benefited european paintball? No as it is crap as without competition it has stagnated and fails to give good value for money. Also I believe belgium was a bad example as it is geographically and in population terms much smaller than the UK and therefore can probably only support a single league.
Secondly the idea of a single league is also especially scary for me living up in scotland as I would not want to have to travel even further if there was only one league as though you might argue that we could organize it so we had feeder series and what not it, wouldn't work and would only reduce the number of events.

Yet I agree more co operation between series needs to occur as having series fight over venues and such (as has happened with the UK masters and the pa) cannot be allowed to continue. I think the organizers need to meet up once again and try and co ordinate themselves better and also try and split up the market. As it would be in the organizers own intrestes , and certainly the players, if the leagues focussed themselves on particular location and skillset. Rather than the current situation where the PA and the uk masters are battling it out in the same area and for the same players which only results in two large substandard leagues rather than two great smaller but specialised leagues.
 

Dark Warrior

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Everybody has got valid points and flaws in there arguments
One thing is for sure something has to be done
Forget the back biting and constant digs
Nothing is ever gained that way
Argue the salient points and work together to find a solution

Something SupAir players are not aware of is that the National Paintball Club has over 200 woodland members and the scenario scene are looking to moving towards full membership including insurance and registration. SupAir needs to get off its high horse and get in line.

Whether you play woodland or supair, you all play recreational paintball and to get any further we need unity not division. Currently we have Woodland Vs SupAir & SupAir Vs SupAir. Not an ideal situation by any stretch of the imagination
 

stongle

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Whether you play woodland or supair, you all play recreational paintball and to get any further we need unity not division. Currently we have Woodland Vs SupAir & SupAir Vs SupAir. Not an ideal situation by any stretch of the imagination

This is 100% the way forward, unfortunately anyone enlightened enough to believe that is sadly in the minority (or not as vociferous as some).
 

Dark Warrior

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This is 100% the way forward, unfortunately anyone enlightened enough to believe that is sadly in the minority (or not as vociferous as some).
They are always in the minority - that's why decisions get made
The majority pick a minority to get together to make the correct decisions to lead the majority the right way.