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stongle

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It's about the bullets.

Anyone kidding themselves that Paintball is a cool sport, is likely on crack. The kids that played Dungeons and Dragons at school thought they were cool too. 2 bogwashes a week says not. The sterotypical Tournament player is a tool. He's not cool, he whacks off to the Avon underwear catalogue, trys only to impress his peer group mates and is a lemming.

Mind you that's abit like saying Chavs wanna be that way too. Their a product of their environment also. Too much and too early access to discounts on paint and kit has let to the development of the gimme gimme free sh*t tool that masquerades as a tournament baller. I mean WTF have you done to deserve bullets at trade or even a lady more? Nothing, nadda, FA. And as for loyalty....forget about it.

The problem was there was always too many retailers and distributors willing to sell bullets and kit at prices below trade or as close as damn it. As teams were always willing to jump to the seller who deals at the lowest price, there has been a pricewar in operation for some time (and it's not as though the sites were immune to this behaviour either!!!!). This scenario isn't sustainable, and has probably run it's course (for tournament players anyway). This behaviour by the players and some of the sites has allowed too many companies to exist in an extremely small market.

Company consolidation is inevitable, and they are going to consolidate and build out from Paintballs base, volume paint sales to sites. In order to survive, and make money (for the venture capitilists), they have to sell bullets to sites, lots of em. To do this you need to be able to shift product cheaply, and quickly. This takes organisation and a good uninterruppted distribution network (hitherto unseen in some companies). It also requires them to reduce base / fixed costs. Mergers such as KEE (NPS / PMI), allows the new company to consolidate production or management into a single unit rather than multiples of each. This reduces cost and allows you to sell at reduced price / increased profit. If you can then price / buyout as many of your compitetors as possible, you increase market share and your repeat business. I mean look at Europe it can probably only really support 2 / 3 paint manufacturers. Consolidation is the only way to go.

Ayway, less companies, more business ethic, focus on the area of paintball that has all the Bejamins.............. hmmmm the future's bright for customer site based Paintball. I mean why would any sensible company pour money into tournament ball for FA return? They won't do it.

So what for the future, probably slightly cheaper customer paintball (and emphasis on the slightly 10-15% less) - probably enough to keep site visits up and Paintball as a credible / cheap days entertainment. For the tournament player? less cheap gear, bulk discounts at 10%. Oh and the bullets, I think that gravy train just hit the buffers too.

And would all that really be a bad thing? well, if the behaviour of the of the tool tournament player is anything to go by (and I reference the behaviour of some in Germany), perhaps paintball could do without the chav's.
 

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Actually I should state, that not All tournament players are representative of the ones in my previous post. It's just a shame that so many are. There were good ambassidors for paintball, it's just a frikkin shame that they never really inspired those around them, or led to wholesale change in th attitiudes of the gimme gimme I'm a pro (at the Cleethorpes 3 man) crowd.
 

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DW, It is unlikely, but it depends on what happens wholesale in the market. If the entertainment experience at the site level is improved, then there is no need to reduce prices (and I was only ever suggesting very slight decreases, paintball is still a cheap day out compared to karting / boating etc).

It could be that KEE and the other big companies make more proactive moves into the customer / rec arena, and improve this experience. If this happens, then you will see a greater conversion rate from one-off cutomers to occasional player, but some serious rethinking at the site level is required.

And anyway, war sells.....anyone want to buy some used ZSU-23's, got a few lying around here somewhere took em as PX on a load of Uzbeck brickies.
 

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i'm sure a lot of things will change due to take overs etc,

i feel many companies will lose thier personal touch, and may also lose touch with what true paintball players want.

it might also be harder for the smaller teams to get sponsership as they would need to provide value for money to the sponser.

i can see where lump is coming from, however more money doesn't always equal better, just look at the NHS.
I was thinking along those lines, but i suppose it's down to how freely the corporation allow the companies to run, because they could:

A: just buy the company and run it as it was run, and let the current staff keep the company alive

or B: they might take over complete management and reduce sale price by such a huge amount that customer service etc. is forfeited.
 

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And would all that really be a bad thing? well, if the behaviour of the of the tool tournament player is anything to go by (and I reference the behaviour of some in Germany), perhaps paintball could do without the chav's.
I think this type player (and there are a lot of them) are more a symptom of our malaise than a possible reason for our present predicament.
It always made me laugh when you ask the average pro player why they think they deserve the support they get, 99% of them have won fack all, know fack all and will achieve fack all..and yet, they think they deserve it all.

They bitch, cheat and behave like kids and the irony is, they are supposed to be the pinnacle of our sport, 'ha frikkin ha', now that is a joke.

If and when the hammer falls, i think i might just allow myself a little chuckle.....
 

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B: they might take over complete management and reduce sale price by such a huge amount that customer service etc. is forfeited.
Pray we don't end up with a paintball Ikea! PGikea :p

With regards to the comment that it is difficult to turn punters into players I agree.
The reason I agree is because:

1. A 12-18 year old player does not see the game as a sport if they only go to run arround in the woods three times a year. They see it as something to do when a bit of spare cash is floating arround.

2. It takes someone with knowledge of the game as a sport to introduce the idea to them. But unfortunately the people with the knowledge cut their own throats if they do. Imagine a team, say 7 of your tri-yearly players suddenly find a field to run arround on instead of the woods, this would end up as a rather large decrease in punter sales. Profit made overall on rental is decreased aswell as on green fee and paint.

So basically what I'm saying is yes, we want the tourny side of paintball to grow but we don't want to loose the recball market doing it by putting the idea to everyone.

And are all these tool tourny players maybe a side effect of the 'chav' modern day clientell that usually attend recball sites? Especially with the change in the attitudes of kids to authoritys.

(I know there are exceptions, I wasn't meaning to generalise people, but if people get hooked on paintball through recball usually, and it's young usually male, usually chav kids that go to play recball then it would explain a few things.)

Sorry this is a little irrelevent I jsut thought it was an interesting point.