Lol james, nah im getting my PMR in a week so im all good. And PMR's are ready out of the box, no ups are required except a new barrel and trigger (and maybe a new back cap after a little use but there dead cheap). And this guy im buying it off has given me a sweet deal with a UL trigger and UL barrel with it. So im all setTeamImpact-Will i would pick the ion coz u can purchase more upgrades for it internal and external but for you i would recomend buying an icon-x lol