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geez dude chill, its just my opinion, we cant all have the same opinions oh and my name its sputnick not sputnikThe Tippmann 98 has actually been around longer than the Inferno Mk2 which has been in production for under 3 years, i believe. The only part that generally needs replacing on the Inferno is the valve, which is under a fiver, and occasionally the valve guide. Most other parts last for years, even with the abuse our customers throw at them. Have you actually studied the machining and tolerances on Inferno parts? I doubt it- they're flawless.
We have found the Inferno to be more reliable than the Tippmann provided it's is kept clean and oiled, which is part of a good marshal/managers duties. IMO, the only benefit a Tipmann has over an Inferno is the ability to fire when full of mud, grit and paint. But that's not good for the long-term life of the gun, so really you gain nothing.
Problems we encountered with the Tippmann were LOTS of valve problems, and the 98 valves are a biatch to service. They are not designed to be end-user servicable which means you either hold a lot of spares or you have a lot of down-time. Power tubes cracking were another problem we encountered and sears made from cheese, well it seemed that way..!
End of day maintenance on a Tippmann may be easier as some sites just hose them down or use a pressure washer, although Tippmann don't recommend this. However, if your marshals are trained properly it takes just seconds to remove the bolt from an Inferno, squeegie through, oil the hammer and replace the bolt and give the gun a quick wipe over, which is all it needs.
If we're takling about stripping a gun down to fix it then the Inferno wins hands down, and yes i've worked on both as site guns.
I think you contradict yourself there, Sputnik. If Tippmanns last as long as you suggest then a site would have to buy new guns less often so their fleet of guns would be very oldI think a customer would put the make of gun pretty low on their list of priorities when choosing a paintball site. Usually the top 4 priorities when picking a site are: 1. Cost/value, 2. Location of site to where they live/ transport links, 3. Site facilities/scenarios and 4. Word of mouth recommendations.
tippman 98's if your saying you dont know how to fix them then your just plain lazy. They work in the cold they work in the boiling heat. As long as you can tech them well they stay like new for a lot lot longer than infernos
Sorry dude but the 98 are built not last that's how they make the moneytippman 98's if your saying you dont know how to fix them then your just plain lazy. They work in the cold they work in the boiling heat. As long as you can tech them well they stay like new for a lot lot longer than infernos
and yes that's the demographic given to distributors 3 year turn around!!!!
There are factors that have not been discussed. If I was a player I woudl rather be issued with Tippmann than an Inferno, and I think I would enjoy using one more. The main thing about a Tippmann is that your customers use more pint when they have one. Typically I see an increase of 100-150 balls per person per day when a feild switches from Inferno's to Tippmanns, a figure I have had repeated to me many times over by many fields. The Inferno is easier to take apart, thats for sure, which in turn makes it easier to work on, but if you are using the correct system for cleaning tippmanns you don't have to actually tear them apart anyway.
The trick is to have a dedicated system for cleaning the Tippmanns properly between uses. If you have that, they will just continue to work and you may have to go into 5% of them once a week to sort out more involved issues. Taking them apart is a bit of a pain, granted, but if they are earning you more money, then its worth it. Most people on here are looking at this from an ease of maintenance standpoint, presumably because you work at fields, which is understandable, but from a business standpoint the Tippmann makes more sense.
The trick is to have a dedicated system for cleaning the Tippmanns properly between uses. If you have that, they will just continue to work and you may have to go into 5% of them once a week to sort out more involved issues. Taking them apart is a bit of a pain, granted, but if they are earning you more money, then its worth it. Most people on here are looking at this from an ease of maintenance standpoint, presumably because you work at fields, which is understandable, but from a business standpoint the Tippmann makes more sense.
I think 3 years is all any guns should be out there for. Otherwise you are not looking after your customers very well. If a gun earns you more money, you can replace it more often. I did some math on this a few years ago, and Inferno feilds, if they switched to Tippmanns, would, on average, pay for their guns in 9 months purely on additional revenue earned by using them. That is the kind of calculation fields should make when considering a purchase.Sorry dude but the 98 are built not last that's how they make the money
and yes that's the demographic given to distributors 3 year turn around!!!!
Yea baby!
You forget one thing most site owners are cheapo b4stards that pay there staff sod all and use every thing till its well past serviceable limits.Especaly things like Markers,goggles,overalls and packs they love buying markers once every 10 years so its got to be the Inferno heat the mk1 with the flexi front hose and inferno parts from all models are interchangable except the barrel on the real early ones pre mass preduction barrel threads are different! every thing else is all good so thats 10+ years of production it isnt AK47 of paintball.But its the British equivilent the S.L.R Its got S.T.Y.L.E and fuction.
You forget one thing most site owners are cheapo b4stards that pay there staff sod all and use every thing till its well past serviceable limits.Especaly things like Markers,goggles,overalls and packs they love buying markers once every 10 years so its got to be the Inferno heat the mk1 with the flexi front hose and inferno parts from all models are interchangable except the barrel on the real early ones pre mass preduction barrel threads are different!
every thing else is all good so thats 10+ years of production it isnt AK47 of paintball.But its the British equivilent the S.L.R Its got S.T.Y.L.E and fuction.