Getting other barrels

[FrontlineArtist]

I've got a Proto 08 SLG with the standard 9inch barrel and I was wondering if its worth getting a 14inch barrel. I've been looking at the Dye Ultralite though it costs around £70 is wondering if thats a good buy or theres a just as good cheaper one. Also am I right in presuming that the thread type is for makeing sure it fits on the right gun if so can someone tell me its size.

 

[The Zambezi Kid]

SLG's use an Autococker thread.

An aftermarket barrel is definately worth the cash - it will improve the SLG's by miles. Instead of the Ultralite get a a Un1tec kit from Warped - fantastic bit of kit. You get a back and three barrels to allow you to match the barrel to the paint for better results:

http://www.paintball-equipment-online.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=79_159_163&products_id=786

 

[Bambulus]

All Dye and Proto guns are Cocker (sometimes called autococker) threaded

I'd take a serious look at the Un1tech barrels, they're super light and super cheap. The starter package on warped is £30 for one back and one front, or the kit (one back and three bores) goes for around the 60 quid mark.

I use one, and I've never had any complaints

 

[FrontlineArtist]

Thanks for the quick replies, can i just ask what are the denifits of all the bore diameters are the smaller ones better for winter? (random guess)

 

[Bambulus]

Different bores allow you to get a better match to the size of paint you're using. I've no idea about how climate will affect this, but it's usually just measured by the paint you're using on the day.


There's some debate as to how effective this is in terms of accuracy, but I guess it just depends on what kind of options you'd like. The closer the paint to bore match, the more accurate the paint (in theory). In practice, though, just buying decent paint that is not deformed or dimpled will do more for your accuracy than anything else. As long as the paint goes through the barrel in the direction you're pointing at, then there's no problem.


I personally just spent the £30 and got the starter kit with a mid range bore (.689), and have never had any problems with any paint I've ever used.

 

[PaintballWizard]

All depends if you can be bothered to bore match. If you can, go for the unitec. If not, go for a invert nightstick or something along those lines.

Avoid cheap barrels as they probably won't be better than the stock barrel.

 

[ses_paintball]

Guys this is getting old now. No new after market barrel will significantly improve accuracy that is proven.

bore matching was found in a punkworks test to be the most inconsistent for "accuracy" with underboring winning and Overboring coming a close second. Underboring your paint will give you better efficiency and a tiny minute difference in accuracy but is it enough to justify buying a new barrel?? no its not sadly, there is no point in my opinion in getting an aftermarket barrel unless you want to increase the distance oin which your shots travel and in that case get an apex.

But there is no significant way to improve accuracy other than to hold your hand steadier and to get a better quality paint.

I will provid proof to back up my claims if you really like.

Tom

 

[PaintballWizard]

Proof please as i have noticed a significant difference between the accuracy (consistency if you want to be picky ) of both my SLG and TM7 when used with a un1tec kit as apposed to their stock barrels.

 

[ses_paintball]

Quoted From BryceLarson of techpb Punkworks, who has done in depth testing of bores, and lengths of barrels to determin and imorivement of accuracy.

we have seen accuracy problems when underboring to extreme levels (.007 or more). Rnt has a bunch of tests showing slight accuracy improvements shooting overbored barrels - most are not statistically significant. Some were.

PunkWorks has never seen statistically significant accuracy changes based on bore, length, barrel design or porting.

The jury is still a bit out on the whole thing.

I would tend to agree with dave - unless we can find a really significant increase in accuracy then it's not really something that's going to change the game.

Contact him on techpb if you like he will happily answer any questions.


He said a lot of people think after market barrels due to a psychological preference which is sub conscious, people want the new barrel to be more accurate ect.

 

[PaintballWizard]

Now, i presume what he has said is based on this data:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AtqsF2x2K22ocHltMHZWd1ZIZFNVRUpJSXpQbks3ZUE&gid=1
However, i believe this data to be disputable, mainly because, although from what i have seen the test has been carried out as fairly as possible, there are still outliers in the data as calculated from the LB = Q1 - IQR and UB = Q3 + IQR method.

I have identified a few outliers to test this theory however i will calculate it for .683 (of which they claim is the proof of underboring being more accurate.
EDIT: Suprisingly, i found no outliers in .683 and i must submit to conclude that according to the data, you are correct, there is a slight improvement in accuracy with underboring.
However, i still stick to the science over the maths in that i think bore matching still makes a difference. If you plot the figures into a graph, you can see there is a noticeable increase in consistency towards the ball bore (.685) but with .683 taking precedence as the lowest.